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PostPosted: Thu 14 Feb 2013 4:08 am 
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Can anybody tell me what this means:
"Tá," arsa Gráinne,"carraig chloiche ar an dtaobh thuaidh den dtigh a chaithid thar dhroim an tí siar, agus beirid thiar uirthi sara mbuaileann sí an talamh."

I think I sort of catch the drift of most of it, and it means something like:
"There is, "said Gráinne, "a stony rock on the north side of the house that they throw over ? ? ?, and they catch ? ? ? it before it hits the ground."

So, the parts that I'm not getting are: dhroim an tí siar and thiar

Thanks in advance for any help with this!


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 Post subject: Re: Ceist
PostPosted: Thu 14 Feb 2013 7:20 am 
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On a person, "droim" is "back"...I wonder if, on a house, it means the top of the roof? They throw it back and forth over the roof (?)

Edited to add that "droim" is also used to refer to the ridge of a hill, so that would seem to back up the roof idea. So there's a stone they throw back and forth (siar agus thiar) over the roof?

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 Post subject: Re: Ceist
PostPosted: Thu 14 Feb 2013 10:24 am 
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Droim can definitely mean the top of something. So they are throwing the stone over the roof.
For example:
Do léim sé de dhroim an chlaí = He jumped over the fence.

Siar means means toward the west, towards the past, or towards the back.

a chaithid thar dhroim an tí siar = which they throw back over the house.

thiar, in the back, in the west, is an adjective on siad or in this case -id:
beirid thiar uirthi = Those back there caught it.


"Tá," arsa Gráinne,"carraig chloiche ar an dtaobh thuaidh den dtigh a chaithid thar dhroim an tí siar, agus beirid thiar uirthi sara mbuaileann sí an talamh."
"There is" said Gráinne "a stony rock on the north side of the house which they throw back over the house and those at the back catch it before it hits the ground.

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 Post subject: Re: Ceist
PostPosted: Thu 14 Feb 2013 4:08 pm 
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Thanks for the help with this – mo cheol sibh!

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 Post subject: Re: Ceist
PostPosted: Thu 14 Feb 2013 4:57 pm 
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WeeFalorieMan wrote:
mo cheol sibh!
Completely off the point of this thread........, but I really like this expression, but never think to use it. I look forward to making up for that! Of course, you lot will have to do something to earn such praise!! :twisted:

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