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 Post subject: Re: go léir Vs go leor
PostPosted: Wed 27 Feb 2013 6:14 am 
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Maith go leor. Ach daoine go leor? Creidim thú a Bhreandáin. Táim thar nais :guiness: agus baochas


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 Post subject: Re: go léir Vs go leor
PostPosted: Wed 27 Feb 2013 7:29 am 
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Tá roinnt samplaí mar "daoiní go leor" in "The Irish of Iorras Aithneach County Galway" le Brian Ó Curnáin, freisin.

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 Post subject: Re: go léir Vs go leor
PostPosted: Wed 27 Feb 2013 10:47 am 
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Breandán wrote:
Also go leor is found before verbal adjectives (because it is then functioning as a noun) - tá go leor déanta acub, tá go leor ite 'am, etc.

Well the sense of this is grammatically clear, I think.

Basically if go leor comes first the noun is in the genitive:

fir go leor = enough men (nominative plural)
go leor fear = enough (of) men (genitive plural)


So, when you want to use it with a verbal noun like ithe or déanamh, then go leor comes first
and déanamh and ithe must be put in their genitives: déanta and ite.

go leor déanta = enough of doing
go leor ite = enough of eating


It's found in the works of most Munster Authors as well (see Allagar na hInise for some examples).

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 Post subject: Re: go léir Vs go leor
PostPosted: Wed 27 Feb 2013 11:45 am 
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In SG, gu leòr is traditionally pretty much always after the thing it qualifies, and I think that's a pretty conservative rule (cf "(whatever) galore" in English). You'll hear it the other way round often enough, but I think it's considered "Beurlach".

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 Post subject: Re: go léir Vs go leor
PostPosted: Wed 27 Feb 2013 1:29 pm 
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So, when you want to use it with a verbal noun like ithe or déanamh, then go leor comes first
and déanamh and ithe must be put in their genitives: déanta and ite.

go leor déanta = enough of doing
go leor ite = enough of eating


To me, these aren't verbal nouns in the genitive, but simply verbal adjectives: enough (has been) done/eaten

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 Post subject: Re: go léir Vs go leor
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To me, these aren't verbal nouns in the genitive, but simply verbal adjectives: enough (has been) done/eaten

You're probably right Lughaidh. I guess the way to know is to take one of the verbal nouns whose genitive isn't the verbal adjective.
Like Cuardach or Faire, I can't think of a natural sounding phrase to put them in though.

go leor cuardaigh/cuardaithe = enough has been searched (???) :??:

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