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 Post subject: Re: Takeaway
PostPosted: Mon 08 Jul 2013 2:38 am 
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There is a tendency among learners and translators to translate things such as this, but in actual fact a lot of them just sound stupid or don't make sense when translated. A case of lost in translation. That's when you'll see things like seacht suas for 7up :rolleyes: .

Díolann siad burgair le tabhairt leat

that makes sense as it conveys the meaning: they sell burgers for you to take away with you

But if you wanted to say "I had a Chinese takeaway last night"

You wouldn't really say

Bhí béile le tabhairt liom (abhaile) ón mbialann Shíneach aréir

That would sound very odd and would leave people doing this for awhile :??:

Whereas,

Bhí béile (nú greim) ón mbialann Shíneach agam aréir

or

Bhí takeaway ón mbialann Shíneach agam aréir

or probably even more common

Bhí béile/ Takeaway ón Chinese agam aréir

These would make more sense

The preposition "ón" already conveys the feeling that you didn't have the food in in the Restaurant.

I don't see anything wrong with using English idioms directly when no Irish idiom or word exists for the same concept. That's what languages have been doing naturally for thousands of years, adopting words accordingly and applying their native grammar, syntax and pronunciation to them.

I could see

Bhí béile chun siúil ón mBialann Shíneach agam aréir

catching on as well though!

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Well, just to continue the loop then re: the original question

What about "Your takeaway is ready?" .. so would it just go to what it is? Bia or Ordú, does that work? "Tá d'Ordú chun siúil réidh."

... related to that. Réidh or Ullamh?


Tá do bhia réidh/ullamh or Seo chughat do bhia/ béile make perfect sense, there's no real reason to say takeaway really,

réidh and ullamh are synonymous, with "ullamh" having a more southern tendency.

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 Post subject: Re: Takeaway
PostPosted: Tue 09 Jul 2013 5:29 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Takeaway
PostPosted: Tue 16 Jul 2013 12:20 am 
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Coincidence I heard two native speakers talking away in Conamara the other day and the other said go raibh sé ag iarraidh takeaway.

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there's no real reason to say takeaway really

People would say takeaway to be more specific like ''is mór an seans go mbeidh takeaway agam anocht''


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 Post subject: Re: Takeaway
PostPosted: Tue 16 Jul 2013 12:28 am 
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Benjamin wrote:
Coincidence I heard two native speakers talking away in Conamara the other day and the other said go raibh sé ag iarraidh takeaway.

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there's no real reason to say takeaway really

People would say takeaway to be more specific like ''is mór an seans go mbeidh takeaway agam anocht''


:yes:

Most languages borrow words from neighbouring languages. That's natural.
"Takeaway" has a particular meaning that is hard to translate and there is no need to anyhow.

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