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 Post subject: Weekend
PostPosted: Tue 19 Feb 2013 7:44 pm 
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Dia dhaoibh !

It's been awhile since I asked a question, now here I am with three ! It occured to me the other day that I don't know how to say what I usually say in English to a friend just before the weekend.

I'd love to be able to say them in Irish, so if anyone can help I'd be greatful.

1. Have you anything planned ?

2. Have you anything planned for the weekend ?

3. I've nothing planned.

Go raibh maith agaibh.

Jane


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 Post subject: Re: Weekend
PostPosted: Wed 20 Feb 2013 3:53 pm 
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Siobhán wrote:
Dia dhaoibh !

It's been awhile since I asked a question, now here I am with three ! It occured to me the other day that I don't know how to say what I usually say in English to a friend just before the weekend.

I'd love to be able to say them in Irish, so if anyone can help I'd be greatful.

1. Have you anything planned ?

2. Have you anything planned for the weekend ?

3. I've nothing planned.

Go raibh maith agaibh.

Jane


There are probably better ways to say these, but to get the ball rolling:

An bhfuil aon phleananna agat? Do you have any plans?

An bhfuil aon phleananna agat don deireadh seachtaine? Do you have any plans for the weekend?

Níl plean ar bith agam I have no plans

These all assume you're speaking to one person.

Please wait for more input.

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 Post subject: Re: Weekend
PostPosted: Wed 20 Feb 2013 4:39 pm 
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Other translations in Donegal Irish :) :

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1. Have you anything planned ?


An bhfuil rud ar bith pleanáilte agad/agaibh?

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2. Have you anything planned for the weekend ?


An bhfuil rud ar bith pleanáilte agad/agaibh fá choinne an deireadh seachtaine?

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3. I've nothing planned.


Níl a dheath pleanáilte agam.

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 Post subject: Re: Weekend
PostPosted: Wed 20 Feb 2013 5:18 pm 
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1. Have you anything planned ?
Rud ar bith beartaithe agat ?

2. Have you anything planned for the weekend ?
Rud ar bith beartaithe agat i gcomhair deiridh na seachtaine ?

3. I've nothing planned.
Níl faic beartaithe agam.

Séamus


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 Post subject: Re: Weekend
PostPosted: Wed 20 Feb 2013 5:29 pm 
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Rud ar bith beartaithe agat i gcomhair deiridh na seachtaine ?


i gcomhair deiridh na seachtaine nó i gcomhair dheireadh na seachtaine? (déarfainnsa an darna cionn - dá ndéarfainn "i gcomhair" :mrgreen: )

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 Post subject: Re: Weekend
PostPosted: Thu 21 Feb 2013 1:29 am 
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Other way to say it in Conamara Irish:

1. Have you anything planned ?

An bhfuil rud ar bith pleanáilte ad?

2. Have you anything planned for the weekend ?
An bhfuil rud ar bith pleanáilte ad le haghaidh an deireadh seachtaine?

3. I've nothing planned.
níl tada pleanáilte amor níl aon cheo pleanáilte am


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 Post subject: Re: Weekend
PostPosted: Thu 21 Feb 2013 12:43 pm 
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If I were speaking to good native speakers, especially older people in Conamara, I would prefer to word them like this:-

1. Have you anything planned ? / A' bhfuil tada leagtha amach 'ad le déanamh ?



1a. A' bhfuil tada leagtha amach 'ad ?

2. Have you anything planned for the weekend ? / A' bhfuil tada leagtha amach 'ad le déanamh ar an deireadh seachtmhaine ?


2A. Have you anything planned for the weekend ? / A' bhfuil tada leagtha amach 'ad ar an
deireadh seachtmhaine le déanamh ?


3. I've nothing planned / Ní'l tada leagtha amach 'am.

Pronounce the word 'leagtha' as leagthaí nó lackey.

I'm presuming that most people will know that I'm using the older spellings here, and the Conamara way of prounouncing them, but feel free to modify/ change if you wish.


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 Post subject: Re: Weekend
PostPosted: Fri 22 Feb 2013 5:28 pm 
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Lovely suggestions above. I'd just like to draw everybody's attention to the following in the forum rules:

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Translators, please use the bold tag "[ b ]" to make translations and suggestions more prominent among the explanations and discussions.

If your translation or suggestion is non-standard or you are contrasting a dialect translation with a standard one or you use old spelling, please mark each clearly with:

(GC) for Connacht Irish;
(GM) for Munster Irish;
(GU) for Ulster Irish;
(CO) for standard Irish;
(SL) for old spelling

If your translation or suggestion uses old spelling, you might also like to consider using the Bunchló Ársa font and ponc séimhithe to give people a hint to look it up in Dinneen instead of FGB. ;)

If you don't wish to mark your suggestions or translations with a dialect or spelling code, then a statement of your preference in your signature would be helpful, preferably in a way even beginners can understand. We respect your right to use dialects and old spelling, please make your intention clear so that others don't inadvertantly attempt to "standardise" your contributions. Thank you for your co-operation.


If you have given a dialect or old spelling version, please EITHER:

1. Indicate that after each suggestion using a combination of labels (GM) (SL), etc, as indicated in the forum rules;

OR

2. Indicate in each post that all examples in the post are in a particular dialect or spelling convention;

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Make a statement or declaration of your personal policy to that effect in your signature, i.e., that your suggestions will be of a certain dialect, style, etc., (and then indicate when you provide suggestions in other dialects or standard instead.)

Please note regarding such declarations that the rules also say "in a way even beginners can understand." That means that even if you choose to include a sample of the declaration in that dialect or style in your signature, please also provide a translation in plain English. This is helpful to beginners, who may still need to be shown which dialects are which. (Anyone who can read your signature only in Irish can probably already deduce what the dialect and spelling is without an explanation. :facepalm: )

So, thanks to those who already follow the forum rules in this regard and to those of you who have made suggestions above and may not have realised that we had such guidelines on ILF, I would respectfully ask that you to back and edit your posts accordingly. In particular, please ensure that the Irish suggestions are in bold (using the [ b ] tag), and make sure you have an English explanation in your signature.

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 Post subject: Re: Weekend
PostPosted: Fri 22 Feb 2013 8:55 pm 
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Breandán wrote:
Lovely suggestions above. I'd just like to draw everybody's attention to the following in the forum rules:

Quote:
Translators, please use the bold tag "[ b ]" to make translations and suggestions more prominent among the explanations and discussions.

If your translation or suggestion is non-standard or you are contrasting a dialect translation with a standard one or you use old spelling, please mark each clearly with:

(GC) for Connacht Irish;
(GM) for Munster Irish;
(GU) for Ulster Irish;
(CO) for standard Irish;
(SL) for old spelling

If your translation or suggestion uses old spelling, you might also like to consider using the Bunchló Ársa font and ponc séimhithe to give people a hint to look it up in Dinneen instead of FGB. ;)

If you don't wish to mark your suggestions or translations with a dialect or spelling code, then a statement of your preference in your signature would be helpful, preferably in a way even beginners can understand. We respect your right to use dialects and old spelling, please make your intention clear so that others don't inadvertantly attempt to "standardise" your contributions. Thank you for your co-operation.


If you have given a dialect or old spelling version, please EITHER:

1. Indicate that after each suggestion using a combination of labels (GM) (SL), etc, as indicated in the forum rules;

OR

2. Indicate in each post that all examples in the post are in a particular dialect or spelling convention;

OR

Make a statement or declaration of your personal policy to that effect in your signature, i.e., that your suggestions will be of a certain dialect, style, etc., (and then indicate when you provide suggestions in other dialects or standard instead.)

Please note regarding such declarations that the rules also say "in a way even beginners can understand." That means that even if you choose to include a sample of the declaration in that dialect or style in your signature, please also provide a translation in plain English. This is helpful to beginners, who may still need to be shown which dialects are which. (Anyone who can read your signature only in Irish can probably already deduce what the dialect and spelling is without an explanation. :facepalm: )

So, thanks to those who already follow the forum rules in this regard and to those of you who have made suggestions above and may not have realised that we had such guidelines on ILF, I would respectfully ask that you to back and edit your posts accordingly. In particular, please ensure that the Irish suggestions are in bold (using the [ b ] tag), and make sure you have an English explanation in your signature.


Another thing we used to ask at the old place is, if you are offering an alternative suggestion, rather than a correction to what's already been offered, to say so, or to explain why your offering is different. This is for the sake of all of us who are learning, not just the casual visitor (a person can post something and be left wondering "Was mine completely wrong, or is this just another way of saying it? And if it's another way of saying it, is it better/more natural, or just a alternative phrasing?")

Redwolf


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 Post subject: Re: Weekend
PostPosted: Sat 23 Feb 2013 3:06 pm 
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Thanks to everyone who replied to my query. I hope I wasn't the cause of any confusions as regards the rules. I actually found them all clear and to the point. I have taken all contributions into account, especially the stated Connemara one's. I do have a particular interest in that dialect. I particularly like the most genuine and old kind.
While it's not for a tatoo thankfully, I would like if someone would be so kind as to verify some of these. Are they all 'correct', and particularly are they what people would actually say in an Irish speaking district ? I mean are they what native speakers themselves might say, as opposed to a learners attempt ?

Regards Jane


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