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Breandán · **Posted:** Sun 17 Feb 2013 3:02 am

Lughaidh wrote:

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By the way, ball-nasc is in Dinneen as "a ligament that connects the bones in the joints." I'd call that fairly established even though you might like to think it is unnatural for Irish. Most medical terminology feels "unnatural" to native speakers in any language (they'd be more likely to say "He has a bad knee", or the like.) but that doesn't mean the technical terminology can't exist side-by-side with the colloquial terms.

if it's in Dinneen I guess it's a real word

Prefixing nouns to nouns is either Old Irish or office Irish (because it's the same order as English...)... Because today's Gaeltacht speakers would never create "new words" in this way, precisely because prefixing stuff is Old Irish and hasn't be used for more than 1000 years.

In any case, could you please explain how you would form the compound that means "anterior cruciate ligament rupture" with naisc baill and with ballnasc so that we can learn from you how to form genitive constructions with five words and with four words, respectively? :wave:

Lughaidh · **Joined:** Thu 15 Sep 2011 12:06 pm **Posts:** 2436

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In any case, could you please explain how you would form the compound that means "anterior cruciate ligament rupture" with naisc baill and with ballnasc so that we can learn from you how to form genitive constructions with five words and with four words, respectively?

as in English, with the opposite word order. I'd say:

maidhm an naisc-bhaill chroisigh thosaigh.
But you'd rather use a verb: briseadh an nasc-baill chroisigh thosaigh, or briseadh nasc-baill croisigh an tosaigh. Sthg like that.
Not worse than English... I bhFraincis úsáidtear an t-ord céarna agus i nGaeilg: rupture du ligament croisé antérieur.

Braoin · **Joined:** Sat 17 Sep 2011 11:52 pm **Posts:** 460

Redwolf wrote:

GRMA! I had forgotten "faoin scian"!

As far as specifics go, I think I'm going to stick with "ghortaigh sé a ghlúin," rather than try to figure out how to say "anterior cruciate ligament rupture"

Redwolf

You might also consider
briseadh sa mballnasc croiseach tosaigh (GC)
... if you really really needed to be technical...

Tá sé tar éis a bhallnasc croiseach tosaigh a bhriseadh.
He broke his anterior cruciate ligament.

Tá sé tar éis a bhallnasc croiseach tosaigh a tharraingt.
He pulled his anterior cruciate ligament.

...ouch...
...aííí...

Gortú glúine.
Tá sé tar éis a ghlúin a ghortú.

Saoirse · **Posted:** Sat 23 Feb 2013 12:13 am

Braoin wrote:

...ouch...
...aííí...

Which dialect please? :mrgreen:

Braoin · **Joined:** Sat 17 Sep 2011 11:52 pm **Posts:** 460

Saoirse wrote:

Braoin wrote:

...ouch...
...aííí...

Which dialect please? :mrgreen:

If I ever do that to my knee it won't matter! :-)

Saoirse · **Posted:** Sat 23 Feb 2013 12:24 am

Braoin wrote:

If I ever do that to my knee it won't matter! :-)

It's o.k. you have two; always good to have a spare! :twisted:

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