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PostPosted: Mon 26 May 2014 1:48 pm 
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Reminds we of the time myself and my brother we driving along and a car came at us in the opposite direction, swerving over and back, before piling into a concrete fence. When we went back, we found a woman had crashed and the car had started to go on fire. My brother and the man of the house nearby wanted to go in and help her. I held them back reminding them of the potential of being sued. She got out herself


Ah come on you're joking :D . What grounds would she have to sue you.

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PostPosted: Mon 26 May 2014 3:42 pm 
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Jay Bee wrote:
Reminds we of the time myself and my brother we driving along and a car came at us in the opposite direction, swerving over and back, before piling into a concrete fence. When we went back, we found a woman had crashed and the car had started to go on fire. My brother and the man of the house nearby wanted to go in and help her. I held them back reminding them of the potential of being sued. She got out herself
8O If ever I am in difficulty, I hope you are not the only one who is in the vicinity. 8O 'Good Samaritans' are protected by law as far as I know.

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PostPosted: Mon 26 May 2014 5:06 pm 
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Jay Bee wrote:
Reminds we of the time myself and my brother we driving along and a car came at us in the opposite direction, swerving over and back, before piling into a concrete fence. When we went back, we found a woman had crashed and the car had started to go on fire. My brother and the man of the house nearby wanted to go in and help her. I held them back reminding them of the potential of being sued. She got out herself
8O If ever I am in difficulty, I hope you are not the only one who is in the vicinity. 8O 'Good Samaritans' are protected by law as far as I know.


They definitely are here, and I suspect they are in most countries. In fact, some countries even have a "duty to rescue" clause that can hold a person responsible if he COULD have helped but chose to abandon the endangered individual to his fate.

Just did a bit of checking on Wikipedia, and Ireland definitely has a Good Samaritan law on the books:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law

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PostPosted: Mon 26 May 2014 8:41 pm 
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Redwolf wrote:
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Reminds we of the time myself and my brother we driving along and a car came at us in the opposite direction, swerving over and back, before piling into a concrete fence. When we went back, we found a woman had crashed and the car had started to go on fire. My brother and the man of the house nearby wanted to go in and help her. I held them back reminding them of the potential of being sued. She got out herself
8O If ever I am in difficulty, I hope you are not the only one who is in the vicinity. 8O 'Good Samaritans' are protected by law as far as I know.
They definitely are here, and I suspect they are in most countries. In fact, some countries even have a "duty to rescue" clause that can hold a person responsible if he COULD have helped but chose to abandon the endangered individual to his fate.

Just did a bit of checking on Wikipedia, and Ireland definitely has a Good Samaritan law on the books:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law

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To link back to the original post, I would feel confident that pushing an innocent bystander off a bridge to save others would not put one into the category of 'good samaritan'. More likely to be done for murder, I would suspect..... :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Mon 26 May 2014 11:19 pm 
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Saoirse wrote:
Redwolf wrote:
Saoirse wrote:
Jay Bee wrote:
Reminds we of the time myself and my brother we driving along and a car came at us in the opposite direction, swerving over and back, before piling into a concrete fence. When we went back, we found a woman had crashed and the car had started to go on fire. My brother and the man of the house nearby wanted to go in and help her. I held them back reminding them of the potential of being sued. She got out herself
8O If ever I am in difficulty, I hope you are not the only one who is in the vicinity. 8O 'Good Samaritans' are protected by law as far as I know.
They definitely are here, and I suspect they are in most countries. In fact, some countries even have a "duty to rescue" clause that can hold a person responsible if he COULD have helped but chose to abandon the endangered individual to his fate.

Just did a bit of checking on Wikipedia, and Ireland definitely has a Good Samaritan law on the books:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law

Redwolf
To link back to the original post, I would feel confident that pushing an innocent bystander off a bridge to save others would not put one into the category of 'good samaritan'. More likely to be done for murder, I would suspect..... :mrgreen:


You don't think the courts would accept the Star Trek defense? ("The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few") :winkgrin:

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PostPosted: Mon 26 May 2014 11:59 pm 
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On the Freakonomics podcast they talked about research that was done about risk taking and foreign languages as well. The main topic of the episode was Is learning a foreign language worth it? Probably of interest to many people on this forum as well.

http://freakonomics.com/2014/03/06/is-l ... o-podcast/


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PostPosted: Tue 27 May 2014 12:53 pm 
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From what I hear, Spanish is becoming more and more prevalent in the US - I remember seeing a video report about a catholic priest in, I think it was California, who had to learn Spanish from scratch because he realised that increasingly the majority of his parishioners didn't speak English. It transformed his pastoral work.
Here in Europe, being confronted with different languages is commonplace, not only that, there are numerous dialects and what are classified regional or lesser-spoken languages around as well (Scots Gaelic falls into that category, as it still isn't recognised as an official European language as Gaeilge is). The majority of French soldiers who were sent to the front lines in the First World War didn't have French as their first language and some didn't have French at all. I don't see what that has to do with morality. As for risk, there's one story I heard in Amsterdam, when I was there a long time ago - some Americans had been taken on to do a job of unloading in the port - they didn't have working papers so it was done clandestinely - they couldn't understand Dutch, so when a load came crashing down on them and the crane driver shouted 'Pass op' they didn't get out of the way, and in Belgium, a lack of understanding of each other's language between Flemish and Wallon railwaymen led to a train crash not so long ago.
Has anything dire happened in the Gaeltachtaí through people not be able to understand Irish?


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PostPosted: Tue 27 May 2014 12:57 pm 
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Saoirse wrote:
To link back to the original post, I would feel confident that pushing an innocent bystander off a bridge to save others would not put one into the category of 'good samaritan'. More likely to be done for murder, I would suspect..... :mrgreen:

What if you were given a choice, either:

(a) Ten million little babies and puppies get blown up. However it's their fault, as they choose to crawl/walk on to a nuclear test facility.

or

(b) One completely innocent bystander gets pushed of a bridge.

Which would you choose?

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PostPosted: Tue 27 May 2014 1:22 pm 
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An Lon Dubh wrote:
Saoirse wrote:
To link back to the original post, I would feel confident that pushing an innocent bystander off a bridge to save others would not put one into the category of 'good samaritan'. More likely to be done for murder, I would suspect..... :mrgreen:

What if you were given a choice, either:

(a) Ten million little babies and puppies get blown up. However it's their fault, as they choose to crawl/walk on to a nuclear test facility.

or

(b) One completely innocent bystander gets pushed of a bridge.

Which would you choose?


Save the puppies ! :LOL:

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PostPosted: Tue 27 May 2014 1:31 pm 
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Puppies and/or babies know nothing of nuclear reactors so their simple choices to move about and explore are not in themselves higher choices to 'walk into a nuclear facility'

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