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PostPosted: Sun 16 Oct 2011 10:47 am 
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You say, Lughaidh, "I've never seen "tosach/toiseach" in the plural so far..." Can you please give us an indication of how far (i.e., in what sources) you have investigated the matter to show us that your sample is a little larger than just your own personal experience?


I've not investigated that, I just wanted to say that I had never seen "tosach" in the plural although it's a common word. But if it is in FGB, it means that it does exist. But I think it's not common since I've never read it anywhere.

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PostPosted: Sun 16 Oct 2011 11:07 am 
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You say, Lughaidh, "I've never seen "tosach/toiseach" in the plural so far..." Can you please give us an indication of how far (i.e., in what sources) you have investigated the matter to show us that your sample is a little larger than just your own personal experience?
I've not investigated that, I just wanted to say that I had never seen "tosach" in the plural although it's a common word. But if it is in FGB, it means that it does exist. But I think it's not common since I've never read it anywhere.

Yes, as I said, you may still be correct and although the plural exists, it might be better to consider the singular. I think it is something to refer to a native speaker, if possible.

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PostPosted: Thu 20 Oct 2011 11:19 pm 
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Breandán wrote:
Lughaidh wrote:
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You say, Lughaidh, "I've never seen "tosach/toiseach" in the plural so far..." Can you please give us an indication of how far (i.e., in what sources) you have investigated the matter to show us that your sample is a little larger than just your own personal experience?
I've not investigated that, I just wanted to say that I had never seen "tosach" in the plural although it's a common word. But if it is in FGB, it means that it does exist. But I think it's not common since I've never read it anywhere.

Yes, as I said, you may still be correct and although the plural exists, it might be better to consider the singular. I think it is something to refer to a native speaker, if possible.



Is there a specific part of this forum website where I would be able to find a native speaker? I'm having a hard time confirming Na Tosaigh Nua as the correct translation of "New Beginnings".


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Is the phrase "new beginnings" not a bit convoluted in the first place? If something is only beginning then it's already implied that it's new. I know Gaeilge can be a wonderfully tautological language, but this phrase doesn't feel right to me...
/ramblings

For a twist on the translation, I'd offer "breitheanna nua", with "breith" (meaning birth) acting as a metaphor for this beginning.

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PostPosted: Fri 21 Oct 2011 2:10 am 
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Not really. Everything has a beginning. Beginnings happen all the time, but only the ones that happened recently are "new". My beginning happened a long time ago. But I can always make a "fresh start" in certain aspects of it.

Athbhreith "Rebirth" and athbheochan "revival" also come to mind - but then they wouldn't apply to a baby (unless you are Buddhist or Hindu.)

Breitheanna nua may do the trick. :yes:

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