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PostPosted: Mon 06 Aug 2012 2:25 am 
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Breandán wrote:
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When the OP said they had a "fantastic" name, I just assumed they'd made it up for a story or something. :LOL:



heh... nah... When I said "fantastic" name, what I meant was that it's a name that I really like having, as it's very unique with an interesting backstory. I just thought with a unique name, it was important to know it's correct pronunciation if you're not a native speaker of the language it comes from =)


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PostPosted: Mon 06 Aug 2012 3:33 am 
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I only do phonemics and phonics.


one doesn't write the glides in Irish phonemics anyway (eg. /bi:/ while it is realised [bwi:] with a glide...)

Btw I tried to record "Céibhionn" on Forvo but the site bugged (and it's still out of order now) so I don't know if it worked or not. I'll make a recording again tomorrow, if I see it didn't work tonight... (and if I don't forget :darklaugh: )

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PostPosted: Mon 06 Aug 2012 3:55 am 
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Here's one for céibheann:

.:>:.céibheann
KAY-vun
/k´e:w´əN/

The same pronunciation will work for céibhionn, though other variations are also possible with the latter.

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PostPosted: Mon 06 Aug 2012 9:31 am 
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Breandán wrote:
Oh, well, I'll leave the phonetics up to you. I only do phonemics and phonics.
I think I have just reached a new level of awareness about my lack of awareness...... 8O

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PostPosted: Mon 06 Aug 2012 11:40 am 
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Saoirse wrote:
Breandán wrote:
Oh, well, I'll leave the phonetics up to you. I only do phonemics and phonics.
I think I have just reached a new level of awareness about my lack of awareness...... 8O

This reminds me of the time a friend of mine was trying to explain string theory at a party. "Come on lads, this ain't rocket-science. It's just particle physics."

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PostPosted: Mon 06 Aug 2012 4:05 pm 
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The difference between phonemics (=phonology) and phonetics is quite simple, just read the articles on Wikipedia :)

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PostPosted: Fri 10 Aug 2012 12:19 am 
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Redwolf wrote:
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It's not a name I'm familiar with so I'll leave the soundfile to somebody else.


I found myself wondering if it's an attempt to back-phoneticize "Kevin," possibly done by someone who doesn't realize that "Kevin" is an Anglicization of "Caoimhín."

Redwolf

Same here. It doesn't look right to me.


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PostPosted: Fri 10 Aug 2012 1:09 pm 
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Saoirse wrote:
Breandán wrote:
Oh, well, I'll leave the phonetics up to you. I only do phonemics and phonics.
I think I have just reached a new level of awareness about my lack of awareness...... 8O



I'll join you. :D

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PostPosted: Fri 10 Aug 2012 2:42 pm 
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Bríd Mhór wrote:
Saoirse wrote:
Breandán wrote:
Oh, well, I'll leave the phonetics up to you. I only do phonemics and phonics.
I think I have just reached a new level of awareness about my lack of awareness...... 8O


I'll join you. :D
I'm in excellent company so! :party: And sometimes there are times where ignorance is bliss!!! :mrgreen: or certainly just simpler... :winkgrin:

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PostPosted: Fri 10 Aug 2012 4:09 pm 
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Haha, "phonics" in this context is when you represent the Irish pronunciation in English words and syllables, i.e., not very accurately. :razz:

"Phonemics" here is representing Irish the way many Irish scholars do in books and dictionaries such as Foclóir Scoile do, i.e., /b/ for broad b, and /b´/ for slender, etc. That is, specifically for Irish. :D

"Phonetics" is using IPA to represent far more detail, such as exactly what glide to use where, but using IPA often requires choosing a specific symbol where a range of sounds are permissible in the language. :S

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Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).


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