House name

Redwolf · **Posted:** Wed 28 May 2014 3:12 pm

MacBoo wrote:

Redwolf wrote:

Folks, I have another question pertaining to this translation...if the house is actually inside the hill, can we just say "Teach sa Chnoc," or do we need "istigh" in there somewhere? I'm never sure of the niceties of that particular construction.

Redwolf

Yeah I've heard that too, that if it's inside something you use istigh...istigh i dtigh, istigh i bpóca, istigh sa bhaile, etc. but I've never been sure either when not to use it.

When I see "istigh i" (or any of the possible variations on that configuration) I tend to translate it as "within/inside." I think it's used mainly when something is contained within another thing ("in the pocket," "in the house," etc.), as opposed to simply being in the midst of something ("in the city," "in the woods," etc.). I may be off base with that, but that's why I'm wondering if we shouldn't include it here, since it seems that the house is, somehow, at least partially "inside" the hill.

Redwolf

Ros Liath · **Posted:** Wed 28 May 2014 3:27 pm

Redwolf wrote:

MacBoo wrote:

Redwolf wrote:

Folks, I have another question pertaining to this translation...if the house is actually inside the hill, can we just say "Teach sa Chnoc," or do we need "istigh" in there somewhere? I'm never sure of the niceties of that particular construction.

Redwolf

Yeah I've heard that too, that if it's inside something you use istigh...istigh i dtigh, istigh i bpóca, istigh sa bhaile, etc. but I've never been sure either when not to use it.

When I see "istigh i" (or any of the possible variations on that configuration) I tend to translate it as "within/inside." I think it's used mainly when something is contained within another thing ("in the pocket," "in the house," etc.), as opposed to simply being in the midst of something ("in the city," "in the woods," etc.). I may be off base with that, but that's why I'm wondering if we shouldn't include it here, since it seems that the house is, somehow, at least partially "inside" the hill.

Redwolf

The house sits in a hollow in the centre of the hill if this is of any help?

franc 91 · **Posted:** Wed 28 May 2014 7:51 pm

Doesn't this hill already have a name in Irish?

Redwolf · **Posted:** Wed 28 May 2014 9:15 pm

franc 91 wrote:

Doesn't this hill already have a name in Irish?

I think it's the house he's trying to name.

Redwolf

franc 91 · **Posted:** Thu 29 May 2014 5:12 pm

Well that might be how they identify the house as well.

Bríd Mhór · **Joined:** Sun 28 Aug 2011 8:29 pm **Posts:** 2985

Redwolf wrote:

MacBoo wrote:

Redwolf wrote:

Folks, I have another question pertaining to this translation...if the house is actually inside the hill, can we just say "Teach sa Chnoc," or do we need "istigh" in there somewhere? I'm never sure of the niceties of that particular construction.

Redwolf

Yeah I've heard that too, that if it's inside something you use istigh...istigh i dtigh, istigh i bpóca, istigh sa bhaile, etc. but I've never been sure either when not to use it.

When I see "istigh i" (or any of the possible variations on that configuration) I tend to translate it as "within/inside." I think it's used mainly when something is contained within another thing ("in the pocket," "in the house," etc.), as opposed to simply being in the midst of something ("in the city," "in the woods," etc.). I may be off base with that, but that's why I'm wondering if we shouldn't include it here, since it seems that the house is, somehow, at least partially "inside" the hill.

Redwolf

But the house isn't really inside the hill. It's not a Hobbit's house.

If it's not on top of the hill then it is on the side of the hill. - Teach ar thaobh an Chnoic.

But if Ros wants "in", then I'd say either "Teach istigh sa Chnoc", or "Teach insan Chnoc". Or even "Teach sa Chnoc"

Ros Liath · **Posted:** Fri 30 May 2014 8:04 am

Bríd Mhór wrote:

Redwolf wrote:

MacBoo wrote:

Redwolf wrote:

Folks, I have another question pertaining to this translation...if the house is actually inside the hill, can we just say "Teach sa Chnoc," or do we need "istigh" in there somewhere? I'm never sure of the niceties of that particular construction.

Redwolf

Yeah I've heard that too, that if it's inside something you use istigh...istigh i dtigh, istigh i bpóca, istigh sa bhaile, etc. but I've never been sure either when not to use it.

When I see "istigh i" (or any of the possible variations on that configuration) I tend to translate it as "within/inside." I think it's used mainly when something is contained within another thing ("in the pocket," "in the house," etc.), as opposed to simply being in the midst of something ("in the city," "in the woods," etc.). I may be off base with that, but that's why I'm wondering if we shouldn't include it here, since it seems that the house is, somehow, at least partially "inside" the hill.

Redwolf

But the house isn't really inside the hill. It's not a Hobbit's house.

If it's not on top of the hill then it is on the side of the hill. - Teach ar thaobh an Chnoic.

But if Ros wants "in", then I'd say either "Teach istigh sa Chnoc", or "Teach insan Chnoc". Or even "Teach sa Chnoc"

I have tried to say this but my friend is very sure he wants 'in the hill'. Its his house so on his head be it :dhera:

Seán

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