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PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun 2012 2:14 pm 
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To help me learn the Tuiseal Ginideach/Genetive Case properly (and more about masuline and feminine nouns while I am at it), I have started to change my 'location' every now and again to include a phrase such as 'ar bhruach na habhann' or 'ag dul trasna an bhóthair'. If anyone can come up with any suitable phrases, feel free to add them to this thread and I'll use them to update my location from time to time and hopefully it will help a few of us to become more familiar with the phrases at the same time.

Note for other learners out there:
if 'an' is in the middle of the phrase, the noun following is masculine, mar shampla 'trasna an bhóthair, therefore 'bóthar is masuline.
if 'na' is in the middle of the phrase, the noun following is feminine, mar shampla 'ar bhruach na habhann', therefore 'abhainn' is feminine.

Go raibh agaibh as bhur gcabhair.

Saoirse, ar chúl an tí i gCill Dara ag an am seo! ('an' - therefore 'teach' is masculine)

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun 2012 2:58 pm 
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if 'na' is in the middle of the phrase, the noun following is feminine, mar shampla 'ar bhruach na habhann', therefore 'abhainn' is feminine.


feminine singular, or plural, if the noun is eclipsed (if it can be).

eg. caint na ndaoine

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Lughaidh wrote:
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if 'na' is in the middle of the phrase, the noun following is feminine, mar shampla 'ar bhruach na habhann', therefore 'abhainn' is feminine.

feminine singular, or plural, if the noun is eclipsed (if it can be).
eg. caint na ndaoine
:GRMA: That was a rather significant piece of information to omit! :oops:
However, for my location, I hope to focus on the singular to help reinforce the masculine/feminine aspect.

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun 2012 7:34 pm 
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Fun with the TG! How about a scéal? Here's a start. (Done in a hurry, so corrections welcome).

Tús na seachtaine a bhí ann. Bhí mé ar mhuin na muice mar bhí saoire na Cásca ann. Sos ó chúrsaí scoile agus uaireanta fada staidéir ar feadh tamaill. Chuaigh mé trasna na sráide chuig teach mo charad atá ar imeall na cathrach. Sheas mé os comhair a thí in aice an gheata. Chuir tafann a ghadhair eagla an domhain orm. Rith mé i dtreo an dorais ar luas lasrach. Chuir sé fáilte Uí Cheallaigh romham ach níor thuig sé fáth mo bhuartha...


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PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun 2012 9:10 pm 
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Scooby wrote:
Fun with the TG! How about a scéal? Here's a start. (Done in a hurry, so corrections welcome).

Tús na seachtaine a bhí ann. Bhí mé ar mhuin na muice mar bhí saoire na Cásca ann. Sos ó chúrsaí scoile agus uaireanta fada staidéir ar feadh tamaill. Chuaigh mé trasna na sráide chuig teach mo charad atá ar imeall na cathrach. Sheas mé os comhair a thí in aice an gheata. Chuir tafann a ghadhair eagla an domhain orm. Rith mé i dtreo an dorais ar luas lasrach. Chuir sé fáilte Uí Cheallaigh romham ach níor thuig sé fáth mo bhuartha...

Ar muin na muice as it's a set phrase. Sorry, I felt like being a bastard :LOL:


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PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun 2012 9:36 pm 
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Gumbi wrote:
Scooby wrote:
Fun with the TG! How about a scéal? Here's a start. (Done in a hurry, so corrections welcome).

Tús na seachtaine a bhí ann. Bhí mé ar mhuin na muice mar bhí saoire na Cásca ann. Sos ó chúrsaí scoile agus uaireanta fada staidéir ar feadh tamaill. Chuaigh mé trasna na sráide chuig teach mo charad atá ar imeall na cathrach. Sheas mé os comhair a thí in aice an gheata. Chuir tafann a ghadhair eagla an domhain orm. Rith mé i dtreo an dorais ar luas lasrach. Chuir sé fáilte Uí Cheallaigh romham ach níor thuig sé fáth mo bhuartha...

Ar muin na muice as it's a set phrase. Sorry, I felt like being a bastard :LOL:

FGB disagrees with you. Sorry, I felt like beating a bastard :nail:

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Hah! Caithfidh gurbh bréag a bhí ann leis an bhfreagra a thug mo mhúinteoir dom bliain ó shin :D Is féidir an dá cheann acu a fháil ar an idirlíon.


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Gumbi wrote:
Hah! Caithfidh gurbh bréag a bhí ann leis an bhfreagra a thug mo mhúinteoir dom bliain ó shin :D Is féidir an dá cheann acu a fháil ar an idirlíon.

Is féidir an dá cheann acu a bheith "ceart" freisin. Just because one is right doesn't necessarily mean that the other is wrong. ;)

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Breandán wrote:
Gumbi wrote:
Hah! Caithfidh gurbh bréag a bhí ann leis an bhfreagra a thug mo mhúinteoir dom bliain ó shin :D Is féidir an dá cheann acu a fháil ar an idirlíon.

Is féidir an dá cheann acu a bheith "ceart" freisin. Just because one is right doesn't necessarily mean that the other is wrong. ;)

Caithfidh gurb é sin é an scéal.


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PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun 2012 10:45 pm 
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O.k. so now that everyone has kissed and made up, would ye like to continue Scooby's story - it is a great idea. It may be a spectator sport for some, but should provide plenty of learning. And the braver members can flex their muscles a bit and have the odd scrap too..... a great spectator sport also! :twisted:

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