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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2011 4:22 pm 
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Hello,

Hope this is satisfactory place to post. If not, please direct me to proper Forum.

I volunteer with Distributed Proofreaders Canada and am working on "Gearr-sgeoil air Sir Seoras Uilleam Ross" (Biography of Sir George William Ross). I have some words that I question and need some clarification from please.

For instance here is a phrase:
Cha'n fhacar riamh co-fharpuis ni bu ghéire na bhitheadh ann, a' slaodadh an fhiodha do'n chruaich-theine, far an loisgteadh[** typo loisgeadh?] e eadar bhun is bhàrr; ...

I need to know if 'loisgteadh' is okay, or is a typo and should be 'loisgeadh', or what?

If this works out I'll have some more I'd like help with.

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Ross Cooling
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2011 5:35 pm 
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Is that Scottish Gaelic?

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2011 5:44 pm 
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I've been led to believe it's Scottish Gaelic as a dictionary was suggested: www.ltscotland.org.uk/gaidhlig/taic/gaelicspelleng.asp and the comments says "He published a number of Scots-Canadian related works and was active in many Scots associated organisations."

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2011 5:54 pm 
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I've moved it into the Scottish Gaelic forum for you.

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2011 6:41 pm 
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"loisgteadh" is right, it's the impersonal form of the past habitual or of the conditional, I think.

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2011 7:21 pm 
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Thank you Lughaidh!

Here's another phrase:
"Bhitheadh iomadh ni ùr aca ri innse a dh'ionnsaich iad mu'n tìr[** unclear] gus an d' thainig iad, ..."

The question is: what accent should the i have, if any, in 'tir'?

Thanks - Ross


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PostPosted: Mon 19 Sep 2011 3:43 am 
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Lughaidh wrote:
"loisgteadh" is right, it's the impersonal form of the past habitual or of the conditional, I think.


One of my older grammars gives an example for what it calls the "subjunctive passive":

Bhuailteadh iad le slatan.
They would be struck by rods.

By "passive" it is obviously referring to the impersonal, and I think you're right that it's really the past habitual, rather than a true subjunctive. On that example, loisgteadh would make sense in context:

... far an loisgteadh e ...
... where it would be burned ...

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The question is: what accent should the i have, if any, in 'tir'?


I've always seen it as tìr and my modern and older dictionaries all agree (enlarged to make the accent more visible).

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Sep 2011 10:07 am 
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Thank you CaoimhínSF!

Here's another phrase:
"Aig na ceilidhean ann an taigh athar, no ann an taighean nan coimhearsnach mar bha Mac-an-tòisich, Mac-Lachluinn, agus Mac-Griogair, bha e deas mar aithrisear[** typo aithrisean?] bhàrdachd."

I need to know if 'aithrisear' is okay, or is a typo and should be 'aithrisean', or what?

Thanks again - Ross


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Bhitheadh iomadh nì ùr aca ri innse a dh'ionnsaich iad mu'n tìr gus an d' thàinig iad, ...

Aig na ceilidhean ann an taigh athar, no ann an taighean nan coimhearsnach mar bha Mac-an-Tòisich, Mac-Lachluinn, agus Mac-Griogair, bha e deas mar aithrisear[** typo aithrisean?] bhàrdachd.


Both aithrisear and aithrisean do exist and they mean different things, but according to the rest of the sentence I think it is "aithrisean" : bha e deas mar aithrisean bhàrdachd, it was nice as poetry reciting.

Or maybe "aithrisear" is a "reciter" - it isn't in my dictionary but I guess it's possible

a bit strange as well (and I wonder why "bhàrdachd" is lenited, after both aithrisear and aithrisean)... maybe you should ask on Fòram na Gàidhlig...

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Sep 2011 10:55 am 
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Thank you again Lughaidh!

I was debating about asking about 'Mac-an-tòisich' or 'Mac-an-Tòisich', so you answered that too.

Here's another phrase:
"Ged a dhearbh an luchd-riaghlaidh gu'n robh an t-airgead air a ghnathachadh ann an cùisean an taghaidh, 's nach robh buanachd[**buannachd?] aig Sir Iain e fein dheth idir ..."

I need to know if 'buanachd' is okay, or is a typo and should be 'buannachd', or what?

Thanks again folks - Ross


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