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PostPosted: Mon 25 Feb 2013 11:12 am 
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Hey everyone,

Being of celtic decent I am interested in having the words; no regrets or regret nothing tattooed in gaelic. Now i'm not silly enough to believe that google translate is gonna be accurate or gramatically correct. However, I have read some forums and have come across phrases like "gan aiféala" but I wanted to know the opinion of people who'd probably know better. Any help would be greatly appreciated :)


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PostPosted: Mon 25 Feb 2013 4:02 pm 
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Tinny wrote:
Hey everyone,

Being of celtic decent I am interested in having the words; no regrets or regret nothing tattooed in gaelic. Now i'm not silly enough to believe that google translate is gonna be accurate or gramatically correct. However, I have read some forums and have come across phrases like "gan aiféala" but I wanted to know the opinion of people who'd probably know better. Any help would be greatly appreciated :)


The usual thing suggested for "no regrets" would be aiféala ar bith, which is a pretty literal translation. You might also use just gan aiféala ["without regret(s)"]. The expression "regret nothing" would end up being longer in Irish than in English, due to the differences in sentence structure. Perhaps something like Ná bíodh aiféala [ar bith] ort, meaning "May you have no regrets [at all]" or "Let you have no regrets [at all]".

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Feb 2013 5:37 pm 
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The usual thing suggested for "no regrets" would be aiféala ar bith,


but be careful, "ar bith" when it's not used with a negative word, also means "any". Aiféala ar bith may mean "any regret" too.
Have to say "gan aiféala ar bith" to say "no regret" without ambiguity...

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Feb 2013 6:10 pm 
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Lughaidh wrote:
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The usual thing suggested for "no regrets" would be aiféala ar bith,


but be careful, "ar bith" when it's not used with a negative word, also means "any". Aiféala ar bith may mean "any regret" too.
Have to say "gan aiféala ar bith" to say "no regret" without ambiguity...

A less ambiguous way to say "no ~" is to use diabhal or dheamhan:

Diabhal aiféala "No regrets" literally "devil a regret"
Dheamhan aiféala "No regrets" literally "demon a regret"

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Feb 2013 6:45 pm 
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Breandán wrote:
Lughaidh wrote:
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The usual thing suggested for "no regrets" would be aiféala ar bith,


but be careful, "ar bith" when it's not used with a negative word, also means "any". Aiféala ar bith may mean "any regret" too.
Have to say "gan aiféala ar bith" to say "no regret" without ambiguity...

A less ambiguous way to say "no ~" is to use diabhal or dheamhan:

Diabhal aiféala "No regrets" literally "devil a regret"
Dheamhan aiféala "No regrets" literally "demon a regret"


I do like that. :good:


CaoimhínSF wrote:
Ná bíodh aiféala [ar bith] agat ort.


Usually we say "ort".

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Feb 2013 10:14 pm 
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Yes, I keep forgetting that the simple use of ar bith (or sam bith in Scotland) is a northern thing.

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Feb 2013 10:45 am 
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Breandán wrote:
Lughaidh wrote:
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The usual thing suggested for "no regrets" would be aiféala ar bith,


but be careful, "ar bith" when it's not used with a negative word, also means "any". Aiféala ar bith may mean "any regret" too.
Have to say "gan aiféala ar bith" to say "no regret" without ambiguity...

A less ambiguous way to say "no ~" is to use diabhal or dheamhan:

Diabhal aiféala "No regrets" literally "devil a regret"
Dheamhan aiféala "No regrets" literally "demon a regret"



I can see where you're going with that but it's not quite the meaning i'm looking for. For me this is sort of a personal thing where i've let things i've done in my past affect how i feel about myself as a person. I want the tattoo to act as a symbollic reminder to myself not to regret what is now in the past. Hence my preference for something like "regret nothing". :)


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Tinny wrote:
Breandán wrote:
Lughaidh wrote:
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The usual thing suggested for "no regrets" would be aiféala ar bith,


but be careful, "ar bith" when it's not used with a negative word, also means "any". Aiféala ar bith may mean "any regret" too.
Have to say "gan aiféala ar bith" to say "no regret" without ambiguity...

A less ambiguous way to say "no ~" is to use diabhal or dheamhan:

Diabhal aiféala "No regrets" literally "devil a regret"
Dheamhan aiféala "No regrets" literally "demon a regret"



I can see where you're going with that but it's not quite the meaning i'm looking for. For me this is sort of a personal thing where i've let things i've done in my past affect how i feel about myself as a person. I want the tattoo to act as a symbollic reminder to myself not to regret what is now in the past. Hence my preference for something like "regret nothing". :)


In that case, the shortest form you're likely to get away with is "Ná bí aiféala ort," at least if you want it to sound like a command to yourself.

I'm not sure there's any problem with "gan aiféala," to be honest. That kind of construction is used a lot in songs and the like. It translates directly to "without regret/shame."

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Redwolf wrote:
Tinny wrote:
Breandán wrote:
Lughaidh wrote:
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The usual thing suggested for "no regrets" would be aiféala ar bith,


but be careful, "ar bith" when it's not used with a negative word, also means "any". Aiféala ar bith may mean "any regret" too.
Have to say "gan aiféala ar bith" to say "no regret" without ambiguity...

A less ambiguous way to say "no ~" is to use diabhal or dheamhan:

Diabhal aiféala "No regrets" literally "devil a regret"
Dheamhan aiféala "No regrets" literally "demon a regret"



I can see where you're going with that but it's not quite the meaning i'm looking for. For me this is sort of a personal thing where i've let things i've done in my past affect how i feel about myself as a person. I want the tattoo to act as a symbollic reminder to myself not to regret what is now in the past. Hence my preference for something like "regret nothing". :)


In that case, the shortest form you're likely to get away with is "Ná bíodh aiféala ort," at least if you want it to sound like a command to yourself.

I'm not sure there's any problem with "gan aiféala," to be honest. That kind of construction is used a lot in songs and the like. It translates directly to "without regret/shame."

Redwolf


bíodh - is what I would say.

Like Redwolf said I think Breandán suggestions works well with what you want.

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Feb 2013 6:08 pm 
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Redwolf wrote:
In that case, the shortest form you're likely to get away with is "Ná bí aiféala ort," at least if you want it to sound like a command to yourself.

Redwol


Ná bí....Redwol

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