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PostPosted: Sat 02 Mar 2013 11:33 pm 
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Hi all,

I have a couple questions. Could someone tell me how a dog would be called? Something that would correlate with "Come here, boy" in English. Also, on the subject of animals, how are they named (i.e., human names, descriptive names, etc.)?

I also have some English phrases that I've been told were commonly used in Ireland. I was wondering if anyone could give some input as to whether these phrases sound familiar:

Making a hand of = making fun of/poking fun at
Going on with = teasing (i.e., “don’t be going on with her”)
Give over = stop it
Glad of it = glad
Handle your feet well = dance
Give hard with the tongue = scold (i.e., “Mam’s going to give you hard with her tongue.”)
Amplush = mess
Upon my life= I swear
Go off on = get mad


Thanks in advance for any help!

Christy


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PostPosted: Sun 03 Mar 2013 11:05 am 
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I say Goile a lot for come here, I picked that up from conamara speakers.

never heard some of those English phrases used except give over but I'd say that's more common in England. Ive heard glad of it & Upon my life but I wouldn't say it's common. I'd say 'Go off on one' but again very common in England too


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PostPosted: Sun 03 Mar 2013 11:26 am 
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Making a hand of = making fun of/poking fun at (Never heard this; I regularly hear ' to slag someone' is to tease them.)
Going on with = teasing (i.e., “don’t be going on with her”) (Never heard this either)
Give over = stop it ( I have heard this, but not very often. I have frequently heard 'cut it out')
Glad of it = glad (I have heard this, but not very often)
Handle your feet well = dance (I don't think I have heard this)
Give hard with the tongue = scold (i.e., “Mam’s going to give you hard with her tongue.”) (I have never heard this)
Amplush = mess (I have never heard this)
Upon my life= I swear (I have heard this, but not sure it was in Ireland. Much more likely to hear 'I swear to God' or perhaps with someone younger 'Cross my heart, hope to die'. Sounds a little ominous, I know)
Go off on = get mad (I have heard 'to go off on one' as in 'he really went off on one')

My guess is that different phrases are common in different parts of the country. There are probably some pretty standard ones and others that are quite localised. Now where have I heard that kind of thing before......! :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Mar 2013 2:23 pm 
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I'm pretty much in agreement with everything Saoirse said.


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PostPosted: Sun 03 Mar 2013 4:25 pm 
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Gumbi wrote:
I'm pretty much in agreement with everything Saoirse said.


Me too.


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PostPosted: Sun 03 Mar 2013 6:19 pm 
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ChristyD wrote:
Making a hand of = making fun of/poking fun at In the north we'd say to take the hand out of someone
Going on with = teasing (i.e., “don’t be going on with her”)
Give over = stop it Very common in my experience
Glad of it = glad Common enough i.e. take your umbrella; you'll be glad of it when the rain starts.
Handle your feet well = dance
Give hard with the tongue = scold (i.e., “Mam’s going to give you hard with her tongue.”)
Amplush = mess
Upon my life= I swear A little old-fashioned but common enough
Go off on = get mad Like what Saoirse said...


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Make a hand of I've heard as in doing something well as " She made a good hand at baking that bread" or " He has a good hand on him for fixing things". I've also heard " She hasn't a hand on her at all. That dinner wasn't good". Amplush I found in P.W. Joyce ENGLISH AS WE SPEAK IT meaning a fix, difficulty.


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PostPosted: Sun 03 Mar 2013 7:34 pm 
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Saoirse wrote:
Making a hand of = making fun of/poking fun at (Never heard this; I regularly hear ' to slag someone' is to tease them.)
Going on with = teasing (i.e., “don’t be going on with her”) (Never heard this either)
Give over = stop it ( I have heard this, but not very often. I have frequently heard 'cut it out')
Glad of it = glad (I have heard this, but not very often)
Handle your feet well = dance (I don't think I have heard this)
Give hard with the tongue = scold (i.e., “Mam’s going to give you hard with her tongue.”) (I have never heard this)
Amplush = mess (I have never heard this)
Upon my life= I swear (I have heard this, but not sure it was in Ireland. Much more likely to hear 'I swear to God' or perhaps with someone younger 'Cross my heart, hope to die'. Sounds a little ominous, I know)
Go off on = get mad (I have heard 'to go off on one' as in 'he really went off on one')

My guess is that different phrases are common in different parts of the country. There are probably some pretty standard ones and others that are quite localised. Now where have I heard that kind of thing before......! :mrgreen:


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Making a hand of = making fun of/poking fun at
I've never heard it.
(ag spocadh le duine - but be careful it also has other meanings OR ag piocadh as duine OR magadh faoi dhuine)

Going on with = teasing (i.e., “don’t be going on with her”)
I've heard - go on with ya ... as as interjection of disbelive (Dublin slang mostly)

Give over = stop it
I've heard in the media, but not personally.
(Éist liom/leave me alone (it also means "listen to me")


Glad of it = glad
I've heard it, fairly common I think, but I don't use.

Handle your feet well = dance
I've never heard that.
(there is an Irish idiom but I can't think of it)

Give hard with the tongue = scold (i.e., “Mam’s going to give you hard with her tongue.”)
I've never heard that. But people say "give out". It comes from the Irish "ag tabhairt amach".

Amplush = mess
Never heard it. What kind of mess do you mean?

Upon my life= I swear
Sounds archaic/old. Like Saoirse said - I swear to God - is more common.
dár m'anam (upon my soul) / others will come to me :)


Go off on = get mad
I believe that also has a sexual meaning. ?
Bhain sé an cloigeann dhó /He took the head off him. (I think the English comes from the Irish, but not sure)

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Mar 2013 7:38 pm 
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Thanks for the input! These phrases came from a book called "English as We Speak It in Ireland," which was written in 1910 by a P.W. Joyce from Limerick/Cork. So perhaps they are so old that they're not used anymore. I'm very careful to ensure what I'm writing is accurate, though, so thank you for the input; I'd rather remove questionable dialect than [i]hope[i] it's correct.

Thanks again!

Christy


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PostPosted: Sun 03 Mar 2013 7:44 pm 
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Did Christy want Irish translations for these phrases? 8O I thought it was confirmation of the English usage that was being sought.

However, I think this was her Irish language question:

ChristyD wrote:
Could someone tell me how a dog would be called? Something that would correlate with "Come here, boy" in English. Also, on the subject of animals, how are they named (i.e., human names, descriptive names, etc.)?
Bríd Mhór wrote:
Go off on = get mad I believe that also has a sexual meaning. ?
'to get off with someone meant to snog them when I was out and about fadó, fadó...... :mrgreen:

Bríd Mhór wrote:
Give hard with the tongue = scold (i.e., “Mam’s going to give you hard with her tongue.”)I've never heard that. But people say "give out". It comes from the Irish "ag tabhairt amach".
Absolutely, I should have thought of this. Irish people definitely 'give out' to their children (and husbands!!! :twisted: )

Crossed with Christy!

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