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 Post subject: Mother tattoo
PostPosted: Fri 07 Jun 2013 2:01 am 
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I am interested in getting a tattoo on my wrist. I would love for it to say "Mother of sons" in gaelic. The only translation I have seen is "Mother and son" which I have been told is Máthair agus mic. I have an open mind of any other ideas that involve mother and child or mother and son. I would prefer words over pictures. Please help. Thank you in advance.


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 Post subject: Re: Mother tattoo
PostPosted: Sat 08 Jun 2013 12:55 am 
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mawiese wrote:
I am interested in getting a tattoo on my wrist. I would love for it to say "Mother of sons" in gaelic. The only translation I have seen is "Mother and son" which I have been told is Máthair agus mic. I have an open mind of any other ideas that involve mother and child or mother and son. I would prefer words over pictures. Please help. Thank you in advance.


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Máthair mac "A Mother of sons."

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 Post subject: Re: Mother tattoo
PostPosted: Sat 08 Jun 2013 11:01 pm 
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Redwolf wrote:
mawiese wrote:
I am interested in getting a tattoo on my wrist. I would love for it to say "Mother of sons" in gaelic. The only translation I have seen is "Mother and son" which I have been told is Máthair agus mic. I have an open mind of any other ideas that involve mother and child or mother and son. I would prefer words over pictures. Please help. Thank you in advance.


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Máthair mac "A Mother of sons."

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Redwolf


Hi redwolf isnt yours mother sons ?

i would think máthair na mac "Mother of sons"

wait for more input redwolf is a lot better at this than me . :)


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 Post subject: Re: Mother tattoo
PostPosted: Sun 09 Jun 2013 12:00 am 
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cytex wrote:
Redwolf wrote:
mawiese wrote:
I am interested in getting a tattoo on my wrist. I would love for it to say "Mother of sons" in gaelic. The only translation I have seen is "Mother and son" which I have been told is Máthair agus mic. I have an open mind of any other ideas that involve mother and child or mother and son. I would prefer words over pictures. Please help. Thank you in advance.


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Máthair mac "A Mother of sons."

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Redwolf


Hi redwolf isnt yours mother sons ?

i would think máthair na mac "Mother of sons"

wait for more input redwolf is a lot better at this than me . :)

No, máthair na mac would be "the mother of the sons". I think what Redwolf has given is grammatically correct.

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 Post subject: Re: Mother tattoo
PostPosted: Sun 09 Jun 2013 12:18 am 
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Breandán wrote:
cytex wrote:
Redwolf wrote:
mawiese wrote:
I am interested in getting a tattoo on my wrist. I would love for it to say "Mother of sons" in gaelic. The only translation I have seen is "Mother and son" which I have been told is Máthair agus mic. I have an open mind of any other ideas that involve mother and child or mother and son. I would prefer words over pictures. Please help. Thank you in advance.


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Máthair mac "A Mother of sons."

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Redwolf


Hi redwolf isnt yours mother sons ?

i would think máthair na mac "Mother of sons"

wait for more input redwolf is a lot better at this than me . :)

No, máthair na mac would be "the mother of the sons". I think what Redwolf has given is grammatically correct.

Knew redwolf was better at translations than me :)


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 Post subject: Re: Mother tattoo
PostPosted: Sun 09 Jun 2013 2:58 pm 
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It's a common misconception that "na" means "of, because of the way the definite article works in genitive constructions in Irish. It's just plain 'ol "the"...it just comes in a different place than we'd put it in English (and sometimes is used where we might not use it in English).

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 Post subject: Re: Mother tattoo
PostPosted: Sun 09 Jun 2013 4:50 pm 
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Redwolf wrote:
It's a common misconception that "na" means "of, because of the way the definite article works in genitive constructions in Irish. It's just plain 'ol "the"...it just comes in a different place than we'd put it in English (and sometimes is used where we might not use it in English).

Redwolf

I usually think if na as "of the", but I can see that you are right - the "of" should really be reasoned as coming from the genitive form of the noun (when there is one), not from the na. :yes:

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 Post subject: Re: Mother tattoo
PostPosted: Mon 10 Jun 2013 7:39 am 
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I mentioned that máthair mac is grammatically correct but it seems a little literal. On consultation, it has been suggested to me that the following might be more idiomatic:

máthair clann mac "mother of sons" literally "a mother of a family of sons"

That might need another grammar check, just to be sure ...

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Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).


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