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PostPosted: Wed 03 Jul 2013 3:07 pm 
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So, Ar mhaith leat fuisce a cheannach? means Would you like to buy whiskey? / Do you want to buy whiskey?, right? So how would you address a group of people to ask who among them would want to instead? So, Who wants/would like to buy whiskey? I don't see any sentence patterns of this form in any of the grammar books I have. My initial guess is that it would need to use cé leis at the beginning of the question, but I could be wrong. Much appreciated in advance.


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asenion wrote:
So, Ar mhaith leat fuisce a cheannach? means Would you like to buy whiskey? / Do you want to buy whiskey?, right? So how would you address a group of people to ask who among them would want to instead? So, Who wants/would like to buy whiskey? I don't see any sentence patterns of this form in any of the grammar books I have. My initial guess is that it would need to use cé leis at the beginning of the question, but I could be wrong. Much appreciated in advance.

Ar mhaith libh....


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asenion wrote:
So, Ar mhaith leat fuisce a cheannach? means Would you like to buy whiskey? / Do you want to buy whiskey?, right? So how would you address a group of people to ask who among them would want to instead? So, Who wants/would like to buy whiskey? I don't see any sentence patterns of this form in any of the grammar books I have. My initial guess is that it would need to use cé leis at the beginning of the question, but I could be wrong. Much appreciated in advance.


No, the books never solve the trickier ones - in any language.

I think it would be "Cé agaibh ar mhaith libh fuisce a cheannach?" or "Cé (agaibh) atá ag iarraidh fuisce a cheannach?"

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Ar mhaith libh...


Like the grammar books, that doesn't quite answer the question, Gumbi. :D


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PostPosted: Wed 03 Jul 2013 7:08 pm 
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Cé agaibh ar mhaith libh fuisce a cheannach?"


i'd rather say "Cé agaibh ar mhaith leis fuisce a cheannach?". :)

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Jul 2013 7:11 pm 
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Lughaidh wrote:
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i'd rather say "Cé agaibh ar mhaith leis fuisce a cheannach?". :)

'Tis a much nicer way of saying it indeed!


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PostPosted: Wed 03 Jul 2013 8:52 pm 
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Lughaidh wrote:
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Cé agaibh ar mhaith libh fuisce a cheannach?"


i'd rather say "Cé agaibh ar mhaith leis fuisce a cheannach?". :)


So would I. I had wondered whether 'le' should agree with 'agaibh' or 'cé', and if 'cé', whether it should be singular or plural. Instinct and logic said it should agree with 'cé', but I heard a native speaker on 'Barrscéalta' a few days ago say "Cé againne nár mhian linn..." so, applying your philosophy that if a native speaker says it, then it must be alright :rolleyes:, I went with 'libh'. :D

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'Tis a much nicer way of saying it indeed!


'Tis not whether 'tis "nicer" but whether 'tis "grammaticaler" :)


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Lughaidh wrote:
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Cé agaibh ar mhaith libh fuisce a cheannach?"


i'd rather say "Cé agaibh ar mhaith leis fuisce a cheannach?". :)

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Not reading stuff as usual :oops:


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So would I. I had wondered whether 'le' should agree with 'agaibh' or 'cé', and if 'cé', whether it should be singular or plural. Instinct and logic said it should agree with 'cé', but I heard a native speaker on 'Barrscéalta' a few days ago say "Cé againne nár mhian linn..." so, applying your philosophy that if a native speaker says it, then it must be alright :rolleyes:, I went with 'libh'. :D


I see. But maybe it was a mistake in the flow of the sentence. Sometimes in a conversation you say things that are wrong and that you wouldn't say twice but well, once it's said it's too late :) If the speaker said it several times, then it would be correct in his dialect.

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Lughaidh wrote:
If the speaker said it several times, then it would be correct in his dialect.
8O I accept evolution in languages, but that seems a little extreme! 8O

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