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PostPosted: Sat 01 Oct 2011 3:09 am 
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What determines whether or not you use "na" as opposed to simply putting the second noun in the genetive?

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PostPosted: Sat 01 Oct 2011 10:27 am 
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"Na" is the article (=the), in the genitive feminine singular or in the genitive plural.

Hata mná = a woman's hat
hata na mná = the hat of the woman

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PostPosted: Mon 03 Oct 2011 6:27 pm 
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Oh headsmack! I don't know why I didn't figure that out myself! For some reason I've had it in my head that one of the meanings of "na" was "of" (maybe because the first transalation I ever saw was "Ádh na nÉireannach" and I just assumed).

Go raibh maith agut, a Lughaidh. As usual, you provide a concise explanation, which makes things perfectly clear to me. Your examples are most helpful in making it "click" in my head. Togha fir!

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PostPosted: Mon 03 Oct 2011 9:50 pm 
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Oh headsmack! I don't know why I didn't figure that out myself! For some reason I've had it in my head that one of the meanings of "na" was "of" (maybe because the first transalation I ever saw was "Ádh na nÉireannach" and I just assumed).


Ádh na nÉireannach is "the luck of the Irish people" :)

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Go raibh maith agut, a Lughaidh. As usual, you provide a concise explanation, which makes things perfectly clear to me.


I'm not sure my explanations are always clear :mrgreen: but I'm happy if it was clear this time at least :)

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