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PostPosted: Sat 25 Feb 2012 9:34 pm 
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I'm trying to do up notes on the copula as gaeilge.. I'm drawing out the table for personal pronouns used, which I found here - http://www.nualeargais.ie/gnag/person.htm - what would you put for 'emphatic' as the heading? The ones De Bhaldy gives (fuinniúil, tréan, diongbháilte, údarásach) don't seem to fit. And would you use 'gnách' for 'normal'?

Also - 'copail' is pronounced how exactly? I know how to pronounce the slender 'l' now (thanks Breandán and Mick) but I sound like I'm saying 'capaill'? wordreference.com is a godsend for French and Spanish - it's a pity there's no equivalent for Gaeilge with the IPA transcriptions, much as I rely on focal.ie .

Thanks for any help in advance.


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 Post subject: Re: 'emphatic'
PostPosted: Sat 25 Feb 2012 9:46 pm 
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'tréan' for emphatic b'fheidir?


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 Post subject: Re: 'emphatic'
PostPosted: Sat 25 Feb 2012 10:02 pm 
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I think the usual terms are:
Foirmeacha treise - Emphatic [=emphasis] forms; Gnáthfhoirmeacha - Normal/usual forms.
You'll have to keep 'foirmeacha' in. I'll leave the pronunkiation bit to those who know. :D


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 Post subject: Re: 'emphatic'
PostPosted: Sat 25 Feb 2012 11:15 pm 
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Go raibh maith agat a Errigal!


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 Post subject: Re: 'emphatic'
PostPosted: Sun 26 Feb 2012 12:30 am 
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Also - 'copail' is pronounced how exactly? I know how to pronounce the slender 'l' now (thanks Breandán and Mick) but I sound like I'm saying 'capaill'?


Copail /kopəl'/ ie. [kɔpwɪlʲ]
Capaill /kapəL'/ ie. [kɑpwɪʎ]

the vowel (o sound vs. a sound) and the l/ll aren't pronounced the same way (well, the l/ll are pronounced the same way only in Munster).

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 Post subject: Re: 'emphatic'
PostPosted: Thu 01 Mar 2012 3:59 pm 
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Lughaidh wrote:
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Also - 'copail' is pronounced how exactly? I know how to pronounce the slender 'l' now (thanks Breandán and Mick) but I sound like I'm saying 'capaill'?


Copail /kopəl'/ ie. [kɔpwɪlʲ]
Capaill /kapəL'/ ie. [kɑpwɪʎ]

the vowel (o sound vs. a sound) and the l/ll aren't pronounced the same way (well, the l/ll are pronounced the same way only in Munster).

They're differentiated in other dialects? How?


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