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PostPosted: Mon 02 Apr 2012 3:58 am 
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My father is passing away soon and I wanted to get our irish surname tattooed in remembrance. I was wondering if I could please get a translation of surname "Ó Fearghail" in ogham. Thanks!


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PostPosted: Mon 02 Apr 2012 4:15 am 
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The name means a decendant of Faircheallach.
which is a given-name and in old Irish probably means "manly". Ogham is simply an alphabet system. You can find this alphabet on-line and use it to spell the letters in the sur-name. A nice Old Irish font might be a better bet for a tatoo.


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PostPosted: Mon 02 Apr 2012 4:17 am 
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Sorry to hear the sad news.

Are you sure you want ogham? It hasn't been used for Irish for thousands of years.

In case you meant seanchló (old Irish script):

Ó Fearġail

Is the English version Farrahill? If you _do_ want ogham, that would be useful to know, but it might take me a few hours to get around to putting the ogham together.

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Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
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PostPosted: Mon 02 Apr 2012 4:19 am 
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Sorry Breandán. while I was editing my post to suggest an old Irish script you posted yours.


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PostPosted: Mon 02 Apr 2012 6:17 am 
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No worries, kenailan. :wave: Must have been a good idea if we both had it, eh? :D

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My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).


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PostPosted: Mon 02 Apr 2012 7:28 am 
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Ó Fearghail is usually (O')Farrell in English.

And i agree ogham is just marks, not very good for a tattoo in my opinion, the Irish font breandán posted would be much nicer. But hey, its your choice.


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PostPosted: Mon 02 Apr 2012 8:11 am 
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Somhairle Óg wrote:
Ó Fearghail is usually (O')Farrell in English.

And i agree ogham is just marks, not very good for a tattoo in my opinion, the Irish font breandán posted would be much nicer. But hey, its your choice.

Maybe yes, maybe no.

Irish identity has:

Farrahill - Ó Fearghail
(O) Farrell - Ó Fearail

Both were probably spelled Ó Fearghail originally, but some (O) Farrell's have been changed to Ó Fearail with the spelling reform.

Farrahill, by contrast, can't be changed that way because the gh is still pronounced (as the h in -hill).

So, if their name is Farrell they have a choice or either Ó Fearghail or Ó Fearail , but if their name is Farrahill then only Ó Fearghail makes sense (unless of course they are using their Irish name to start with in which case the anglicised version would depend on how they pronounce it themselves.)

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Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).


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PostPosted: Mon 02 Apr 2012 8:41 am 
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For the sake of the op, in usage I know a few farrells and they use ó fearghail but use whatever you feel comfortable with.

Also my name is very similar and people often think my surname would be farrell in english which it isnt


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PostPosted: Mon 02 Apr 2012 2:44 pm 
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Thanks for all the replies! The English spelling of our name is "Ferrell" so a different surname may be more accurate....and also I am pretty set on using the ogham translation for the tattoo. Thanks for all the help!


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PostPosted: Mon 02 Apr 2012 3:01 pm 
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mjamesk wrote:
I am pretty set on using the ogham translation for the tattoo

Again, just to reiterate, Ogham is not a language and therefore there is no translation. Any language can be alphabetically transcribed into the Ogam script providing, that is, you can match the phonetics.


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