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PostPosted: Sun 16 Sep 2012 12:15 pm 
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thankyou brid and Cionnfhaolach so much your efforts are brilliant.as it looks i would go with brids version ,so how would the final verse look for copying down to be given as the framed gift

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An Cionnfhaolach wrote:
Bríd Mhór wrote:
Using Cionnfhaolach translation I changed it a bit - not that mine is any better, I'm not good at poetry.


Go mbeidh tionchar ag beannachtaí an Tiarna ar do shaol inniu.

Go seola sé a chuid aingealíní le thú a chosaint ar do bhealach.

Seodín mírúilteach curtha anuas ó Neamh- tairbhí do ghrá agus do chion.

Go rince (?) gathanna gréine is gathanna gealaí ós do chionn

Go raibh rath Dé ort is tú do chodladh go sámh i do leaba.


I would leave out the shamrocks.
And I'm not sure of the foshuiteach either.


I agree that maybe the first line of mine should be altered as I believe it to be to literal:

"Go mbeire Dia le beannachtaí ar do shaol inniu"- May God grab our life with blessings today

I think "Seoidín/ Seodín" (little jewel/ treasure) is much better than "lómhar"

The original English:

may all the blessings of our lord touch your life today.
may he send his little angels to protect you on your way.
such a miraculous gift,sent from above.
someone so precious to cherish and love.
may sunshine and moonbeams dance over your head.
as you quietly slumber in your bed .
may good luck be with you wherever you go.
and your blessings outnumber the shamrocks that grow.


So far, we have a choice of:

"Go mBeire Dia le beannachtaí ar do shaol inniu(imh)
Go dtuga sé a aingil mar chosaint duit, agus tú ar do shlí.
' Sé bronntanas mírúilteach, a tháinig anuas chug(h)at.
Seoidín (breá), chun do ghrá is do chion a roinnt.
Go rince gathanna gréine is (gathanna) gealaí ós cionn do chinn (ós do chionn wouls probably be better),
agus tú (i do leaba) i lár do shuan.
Go raibh rath/ áth Dé ort agus tú ag siúil an tsaoil
agus go raibh na beannachtaí níos flúirsí ná na seamróga iad f(h)éin.
"

May God grab your life with blessings today
May he give you his angels as protection, when you are on your way. (I think seola, would be better)
A (lovely) miraculous gift, that came to you from above.
A little treasure/ jewel, to share your fondness/ affection and love
May sun-rays and moon(beams) dance above your head,
When your are in the middle of your sleep/ slumber (in your bed) .
May there be the luck of God upon you, when you are walking through life (idiomatic of going through life)
May the blessings be more plentiful than the shamrocks themselves.


Or with Bríd's changes:

Go mbeidh (go raibh= Foshuiteach) tionchar ag beannachtaí an Tiarna ar do shaol inniu.
Go seola sé a chuid aingealíní le thú a chosaint ar do bhealach.
Seodín mírúilteach curtha anuas ó Neamh- tairbhí do ghrá agus do chion.
Go rince (?) gathanna gréine is gathanna gealaí ós do chionn
Go raibh rath Dé ort is tú do chodladh go sámh i do leaba.


(May) the Lord's blessings influence your life today
May he send you his angels to protect you on your way.
A little miraculous treasure, given from heaven above- benefits of love and affection.
May sun-rays and moonbeams dance above your head
May there be the luck of God upon you when you are gently/ peacefully asleep in your bed.


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PostPosted: Sun 16 Sep 2012 12:52 pm 
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Bríd Mhór wrote:
Using Cionnfhaolach translation I changed it a bit - not that mine is any better, I'm not good at poetry.


Go raibh tionchar ag beannachtaí an Tiarna ar do shaol inniu.

Go seola sé a chuid aingealíní le thú a chosaint ar do bhealach.

Seoidín míorúilteach curtha anuas ó Neamh- tairbhí do ghrá agus do chion.

Go rince gathanna gréine is gathanna gealaí ós do chionn

Go raibh rath Dé ort is tú i do chodladh go sámh i do leaba.


I would leave out the shamrocks.
And I'm not sure of the foshuiteach either.
I would suggest the above spelling and tense changes (subject to further checking. )

Go raiḃ tionċar ag beannaċtaí an Tiarna ar do ẛaol inniu.

Go seola sé a ċuid aingealíní le ṫú a ċosaint ar do ḃealaċ.

Seoidín míorúilteaċ curṫa anuas ó Neaṁ - tairḃí do ġrá agus do ċion.

Go rince gaṫanna gréine is gaṫanna gealaí ós do ċionn

Go raiḃ raṫ Dé ort is tú i do ċodlaḋ go sáṁ i do leaba.

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PostPosted: Sun 16 Sep 2012 10:38 pm 
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that looks great breandán i'll wait for agreement from the others thank you all for your time and efforts
Breandán wrote:
Bríd Mhór wrote:
Using Cionnfhaolach translation I changed it a bit - not that mine is any better, I'm not good at poetry.


Go raibh tionchar ag beannachtaí an Tiarna ar do shaol inniu.

Go seola sé a :S chuid aingealíní le thú a chosaint ar do bhealach.

Seoidín míorúilteach curtha anuas ó Neamh- tairbhí do ghrá agus do chion.

Go rince gathanna gréine is gathanna gealaí ós do chionn

Go raibh rath Dé ort is tú i do chodladh go sámh i do leaba.


I would leave out the shamrocks.
And I'm not sure of the foshuiteach either.
I would suggest the above spelling and tense changes (subject to further checking. )

Go raiḃ tionċar ag beannaċtaí an Tiarna ar do ẛaol inniu.

Go seola sé a ċuid aingealíní le ṫú a ċosaint ar do ḃealaċ.

Seoidín míorúilteaċ curṫa anuas ó Neaṁ - tairḃí do ġrá agus do ċion.

Go rince gaṫanna gréine is gaṫanna gealaí ós do ċionn

Go raiḃ raṫ Dé ort is tú i do ċodlaḋ go sáṁ i do leaba.


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PostPosted: Sun 16 Sep 2012 10:53 pm 
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mick15 wrote:
that looks great breandán i'll wait for agreement from the others thank you all for your time and efforts
Breandán wrote:
Bríd Mhór wrote:
Using Cionnfhaolach translation I changed it a bit - not that mine is any better, I'm not good at poetry.


Go raibh tionchar ag beannachtaí an Tiarna ar do shaol inniu.

Go seola sé a :S chuid aingealíní le thú a chosaint ar do bhealach.

Seoidín míorúilteach curtha anuas ó Neamh- tairbhí do ghrá agus do chion.

Go rince gathanna gréine is gathanna gealaí ós do chionn

Go raibh rath Dé ort is tú i do chodladh go sámh i do leaba.


I would leave out the shamrocks.
And I'm not sure of the foshuiteach either.
I would suggest the above spelling and tense changes (subject to further checking. )

Go raiḃ tionċar ag beannaċtaí an Tiarna ar do ẛaol inniu.

Go seola sé a ċuid aingealíní le ṫú a ċosaint ar do ḃealaċ.

Seoidín míorúilteaċ curṫa anuas ó Neaṁ - tairḃí do ġrá agus do ċion.

Go rince gaṫanna gréine is gaṫanna gealaí ós do ċionn

Go raiḃ raṫ Dé ort is tú i do ċodlaḋ go sáṁ i do leaba.


Why the confused smiley ( :S ) ?

My version could probably do with some tweaking too.

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PostPosted: Sun 16 Sep 2012 11:37 pm 
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Bríd Mhór wrote:
Why the confused smiley ( ) ?
That smiley wasn't in my post. :dhera:
Bríd Mhór wrote:
My version could probably do with some tweaking too.
I thought I _was_ working with your version, Bríd. :S (<= This confused smiley is mine. :LOL: )

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PostPosted: Mon 17 Sep 2012 12:39 am 
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Breandán wrote:
Bríd Mhór wrote:
Why the confused smiley ( ) ?
That smiley wasn't in my post. :dhera:
Bríd Mhór wrote:
My version could probably do with some tweaking too.
I thought I _was_ working with your version, Bríd. :S (<= This confused smiley is mine. :LOL: )



Smilies must be getting a life of their own :LOL:

When I said my version needed tweaking I meant not just the grammar and spelling mistakes (thanks for correcting Breandán), but the overall thing as well to get it more poetic.

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PostPosted: Mon 17 Sep 2012 2:09 am 
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Breandán wrote:
Bríd Mhór wrote:
Using Cionnfhaolach translation I changed it a bit - not that mine is any better, I'm not good at poetry.


Go raibh tionchar ag beannachtaí an Tiarna ar do shaol inniu.

Go seola sé a chuid aingealíní le thú a chosaint ar do bhealach.

Seoidín míorúilteach curtha anuas ó Neamh- tairbhí do ghrá agus do chion.

Go rince gathanna gréine is gathanna gealaí ós do chionn

Go raibh rath Dé ort is tú i do chodladh go sámh i do leaba.


I would leave out the shamrocks.
And I'm not sure of the foshuiteach either.
I would suggest the above spelling and tense changes (subject to further checking. )

Go raiḃ tionċar ag beannaċtaí an Tiarna ar do ẛaol inniu.

Go seola sé a ċuid aingealíní le ṫú a ċosaint ar do ḃealaċ.

Seoidín míorúilteaċ curṫa anuas ó Neaṁ - tairḃí do ġrá agus do ċion.

Go rince gaṫanna gréine is gaṫanna gealaí ós do ċionn

Go raiḃ raṫ Dé ort is tú i do ċodlaḋ go sáṁ i do leaba.


:good: Seconded with the small alterations above.

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My adaptations of the 2 translations into Donegal Irish:

"Go mbeiridh Dia le beannachtaí ar do shaoghal inniu
Go dtabhraidh sé a aingle mar chosaint duit, agus tú ar do shlí.
Is pronntanas míorúilteach iad, a tháinig anuas chugad.
Seoidín (breá), le do ghrá is do chion a roinnt.
Go rabh gathannaí gréine is (gathannaí) gealaí a' damhsa os do chionn
agus tú (in do leabaidh) i lár do shuain.
Go rabh rath Dé ort agus tú ag siúl an tsaoghail
agus go rabh na beannachtaí níos flúirsí ná na seamrógaí féin."


May God grab your life with blessings today
May he give you his angels as protection, when you are on your way. (I think seola, would be better)
A (lovely) miraculous gift, that came to you from above.
A little treasure/ jewel, to share your fondness/ affection and love
May sun-rays and moon(beams) dance above your head,
When your are in the middle of your sleep/ slumber (in your bed) .
May there be the luck of God upon you, when you are walking through life (idiomatic of going through life)
May the blessings be more plentiful than the shamrocks themselves.



Go rabh tionchar ag beannachtaí an Tiarna ar do shaoghal inniu.
Go seolaidh sé a chuid ainglíní le tú a chosaint ar do bhealach.
Seoidín míorúilteach curtha anuas ó Neamh- tairbhí do ghrá agus do cheana.
Go rabh gathannaí gréine is gathannaí gealaí a' damhsa os do chionn
Go rabh rath Dé ort is tú in do chodladh go sámh in do leabaidh.


(May) the Lord's blessings influence your life today
May he send you his angels to protect you on your way.
A little miraculous treasure, given from heaven above- benefits of love and affection.
May sun-rays and moonbeams dance above your head
May there be the luck of God upon you when you are gently/ peacefully asleep in your bed.

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