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The English is "I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" (depending on your version of the Bible, of course)

From an Bíobla Naofa (the Holy Bible in Irish):

FILIPIGH 4:13
Táim in ann gach ní a dhéanamh le cabhair an té úd a thugann neart dom.

literally "I am able to do all things with the help of the one who gives me strength."

Confirmation welcome ...

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Breandán wrote:
The English is "I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" (depending on your version of the Bible, of course)

From an Bíobla Naofa (the Holy Bible in Irish):

FILIPIGH 4:13
Táim in ann gach ní a dhéanamh le cabhair an té úd a thugann neart dom.

literally "I am able to do all things with the help of the one who gives me strength."

Confirmation welcome ...


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Quotes from the Munster Bible also welcome for comparison and consideration. :yes:

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PostPosted: Fri 28 Sep 2012 8:57 pm 
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I don't know what the Munster Bible is, but the 1817 Bedell/O'Donnell translation has: Tig dhíom na huile neithe do dhéunamh tré Chríosd noch do neartuigheas mé.

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PostPosted: Fri 28 Sep 2012 10:55 pm 
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the 1817 Bedell/O'Donnell translation has: Tig dhíom na huile neithe do dhéunamh tré Chríosd noch do neartuigheas mé


That's very close to the the equivalent in the 1813 Scottish Gaelic Bible (the translators of which are unknown):

Is urradh mi na h-uile nithe a dheanamh tre Chríosd, a neartaidheas mi
[This has no accents in the existing text -- the accents were heavily in flux then anyway in Scottish Gaelic]

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an_t-uaithneach wrote:
I don't know what the Munster Bible is, but the 1817 Bedell/O'Donnell translation has: Tig dhíom na huile neithe do dhéunamh tré Chríosd noch do neartuigheas mé.

An Lon Dubh had quoted from Peadar Ua Laoghaire's translation for another verse. It is in Munster Irish.

Thank you for yours and Caoimhín for his. :wave:

I see that they both have "Christ". The English versions variously have "Christ" and "he". Does anyone know what the original was? (I assume it would have been Greek for the New Testament?)

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PostPosted: Sat 29 Sep 2012 9:39 am 
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Breandán wrote:
an_t-uaithneach wrote:
I don't know what the Munster Bible is, but the 1817 Bedell/O'Donnell translation has: Tig dhíom na huile neithe do dhéunamh tré Chríosd noch do neartuigheas mé.

An Lon Dubh had quoted from Peadar Ua Laoghaire's translation for another verse. It is in Munster Irish.

Thank you for yours and Caoimhín for his. :wave:

I see that they both have "Christ". The English versions variously have "Christ" and "he". Does anyone know what the original was? (I assume it would have been Greek for the New Testament?)


Yes, the original is New Testament Greek. The version from e-Sword says "πάντα ἰσχύω ἐν τῷ ἐνδυναμοῦντί με Χριστῷ", with the word for Christ, but my dead-tree edition of the Greek New Testament says "πάντα ἰσχύω ἐν τῷ ἐνδυναμοῦντί με" without the word for Christ. Adam Clarke's commentary says, "Through Him who strengtheneth me is the reading of some of the best MSS., versions, and fathers; the word Χριστῷ, Christ, being omitted." It seems likely that some early copyist wanted to make sure readers knew exactly who was the source of strength, and so added the word, and then that version spread to a lot of translations. The Vulgate does not have the word for Christ.

I didn't know PUL had also translated the Epistles. I was only aware of his translations of the Gospels and of Acts.

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an_t-uaithneach wrote:
Breandán wrote:
an_t-uaithneach wrote:
I don't know what the Munster Bible is, but the 1817 Bedell/O'Donnell translation has: Tig dhíom na huile neithe do dhéunamh tré Chríosd noch do neartuigheas mé.

An Lon Dubh had quoted from Peadar Ua Laoghaire's translation for another verse. It is in Munster Irish.

Thank you for yours and Caoimhín for his. :wave:

I see that they both have "Christ". The English versions variously have "Christ" and "he". Does anyone know what the original was? (I assume it would have been Greek for the New Testament?)


Yes, the original is New Testament Greek. The version from e-Sword says "πάντα ἰσχύω ἐν τῷ ἐνδυναμοῦντί με Χριστῷ", with the word for Christ, but my dead-tree edition of the Greek New Testament says "πάντα ἰσχύω ἐν τῷ ἐνδυναμοῦντί με" without the word for Christ. Adam Clarke's commentary says, "Through Him who strengtheneth me is the reading of some of the best MSS., versions, and fathers; the word Χριστῷ, Christ, being omitted." It seems likely that some early copyist wanted to make sure readers knew exactly who was the source of strength, and so added the word, and then that version spread to a lot of translations. The Vulgate does not have the word for Christ.

I didn't know PUL had also translated the Epistles. I was only aware of his translations of the Gospels and of Acts.

Thanks for the clarification. The previous verse requested was from the Gospel According to John, so I guess it happened to be one PUL had done. I didn't know he had only done certain parts until now (and the previous time was the first time I learned that he had translated any of it.) :GRMA:

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I don't know that he didn't translate more; maybe he did. But the Gospels and Acts are all I'm aware of.

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