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PostPosted: Tue 26 Feb 2013 7:51 am 
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I'm getting a tattoo on my left arm to represent the Irish side of my ancestry. I want the phrase "Be a better man than your father" included on a small part of the tattoo in Irish Gaelic. I'd be hugely grateful if someone could provide me with an accurate translation. Also, if at all possible, if you could please include the way the phrase sounds, as I'm unfamiliar with the Irish language. Many thanks!

-Chris


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PostPosted: Tue 26 Feb 2013 10:42 am 
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Xexxes wrote:
I'm getting a tattoo on my left arm to represent the Irish side of my ancestry. I want the phrase "Be a better man than your father" included on a small part of the tattoo in Irish Gaelic. I'd be hugely grateful if someone could provide me with an accurate translation. Also, if at all possible, if you could please include the way the phrase sounds, as I'm unfamiliar with the Irish language. Many thanks!

-Chris

In order to avoid the TSF problem, perhaps:

Bí níos fearr ná d'athair "Be better than your father."
BEE neess F(y)AWR naw DUH-hurh
/b´i: N´i:s f´ɑ:r Nɑ: dahər´/

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Feb 2013 3:43 pm 
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Breandán wrote:
Xexxes wrote:
I'm getting a tattoo on my left arm to represent the Irish side of my ancestry. I want the phrase "Be a better man than your father" included on a small part of the tattoo in Irish Gaelic. I'd be hugely grateful if someone could provide me with an accurate translation. Also, if at all possible, if you could please include the way the phrase sounds, as I'm unfamiliar with the Irish language. Many thanks!

-Chris

In order to avoid the TSF problem, perhaps:

Bí níos fearr ná d'athair "Be better than your father."
BEE neess F(y)AWR naw DUH-hurh
/b´i: N´i:s f´ɑ:r Nɑ: dahər´/

Is there something wrong with Bí id fhear (i d'fhear) níos fearr ná d'athair ?


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PostPosted: Tue 26 Feb 2013 4:06 pm 
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You can also avoid the TSF problem this way: gura fear níos fearr ná d'athair thú.

Also: Gura fearr thú ná d'athair

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Feb 2013 7:14 pm 
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Gumbi wrote:
Breandán wrote:
Xexxes wrote:
I'm getting a tattoo on my left arm to represent the Irish side of my ancestry. I want the phrase "Be a better man than your father" included on a small part of the tattoo in Irish Gaelic. I'd be hugely grateful if someone could provide me with an accurate translation. Also, if at all possible, if you could please include the way the phrase sounds, as I'm unfamiliar with the Irish language. Many thanks!

-Chris

In order to avoid the TSF problem, perhaps:

Bí níos fearr ná d'athair "Be better than your father."
BEE neess F(y)AWR naw DUH-hurh
/b´i: N´i:s f´ɑ:r Nɑ: dahər´/

Is there something wrong with Bí id fhear (i d'fhear) níos fearr ná d'athair ?

Probably nothing, but it felt a bit literal. :dhera:

Bí i d'fhear níos fearr ná d'athair would certainly have an interesting alliteration to it (in Cois Fhairrge Irish at least, due to the similarity of fhear /æ:r/ and athair /æ:r´/ in that dialect):

Bí i d'fhear níos fearr ná d'athair
BEE ih D(y)AER neess F(y)AWR naw DAErh or BEE i T(y)AER neess F(y)AWR naw TAErh
/b´i: i d´æ:r N´i:s f´ɑ:r Nɑ: dæ:r´/ or /b´i: i t´æ:r N´i:s f´ɑ:r Nɑ: tæ:r´/

But in standardised pronunciation:
Bí i d'fhear níos fearr ná d'athair
BEE ih D(y)AER neess F(y)AWR naw DUH-hurh
/b´i: i d´æ:r N´i:s f´ɑ:r Nɑ: dahər´/

Lughaidh wrote:
You can also avoid the TSF problem this way: gura fear níos fearr ná d'athair thú.

Also: Gura fearr thú ná d'athair
:GRMA:

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Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).


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PostPosted: Wed 27 Feb 2013 5:03 am 
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This phrase would never be said or used in Gaelic. If one was to say that a person should be better than their father, it would never be put in such a way. I don't know why, but one would never mention the father at all. It would be more idiomatic..

Bíodh croí níos croíula agat....or something like that....just a suggestion.


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