It is currently Sat 12 Sep 2026 8:45 am

All times are UTC


Forum rules


Please click here to view the forum rules



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 21 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: "How am I going to?"
PostPosted: Fri 01 Mar 2013 1:59 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat 18 Aug 2012 9:06 am
Posts: 21
Hi there guys,
I'm just wondering whether it's possible to translate "How am I going to...?" as in...

"How am I going to survive without my hair straighteners?"
"How am I supposed to work under these conditions?"

That kind of phrase, y'know what I mean? I appreciate it might not be idiomatic to have a direct translation, I just couldn't think how to even start translating that kind of phrase.
Go raibh míle maith agaibh!
Seán Beag


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: "How am I going to?"
PostPosted: Fri 01 Mar 2013 7:46 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu 15 Sep 2011 12:06 pm
Posts: 2436
Maybe "cad é mar a" + conditional...

_________________
Is fearr Gaeilg na Gaeltaċta ná Gaeilg ar biṫ eile
Agus is í Gaeilg Ġaoṫ Doḃair is binne
:)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: "How am I going to?"
PostPosted: Fri 01 Mar 2013 8:40 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun 28 Aug 2011 6:15 pm
Posts: 3594
Location: An Astráil
Lughaidh wrote:
Maybe "cad é mar a" + conditional... (GU)

Or perhaps "Cén chaoi a mbeidh/mbeinn in ann (+ verbal noun)" or "cén chaoi a bhféadfainn (+ verbal noun)" (GC).

Wait for native confirmation ...

_________________
Múinteoir Gaeilge - Irish Teacher
My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: "How am I going to?"
PostPosted: Fri 01 Mar 2013 10:14 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat 18 Aug 2012 9:06 am
Posts: 21
So if we move down to Munster could we have "Conas go mbeidh...?"?

I really appreciate you guys taking the time to help me out on this one. I like to stretch myself with constructions I haven't thought of before, it would very much interest me to see what a native speaker would say.
grma


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: "How am I going to?"
PostPosted: Fri 01 Mar 2013 6:46 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu 15 Sep 2011 12:06 pm
Posts: 2436
Quote:
So if we move down to Munster could we have "Conas go mbeidh...?"?


normally conas is followed by the direct relative, ie. "conas a bheidh" (if you say "how will... be").

How could I... (as Breandán said) is "Conas a d'fhéadfainn..." in Munster.
Using the conditional as I said, you'd get "Conas a + verb in the conditional".
How would I do... = Conas a dhéanfainn...
How would I go... = Conas a raghainn...
How would I survive= Conas a mhairfinn...

_________________
Is fearr Gaeilg na Gaeltaċta ná Gaeilg ar biṫ eile
Agus is í Gaeilg Ġaoṫ Doḃair is binne
:)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: "How am I going to?"
PostPosted: Fri 01 Mar 2013 11:54 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat 22 Sep 2012 5:40 pm
Posts: 157
SeanBeag wrote:
"How am I going to survive without my hair straighteners?"
"How am I supposed to work under these conditions?"


Hi, I think I would say something like:

Goidé an dóigh a mairfidh mé gan mo 'hair straighteners' a bheith agam? (GU)
Goidé an dóigh a bhfuil mé in ainm a bheith ag obair faoi na coingheallacha seo? (GU)

or in standard spelling:

Cad é an dóigh a mairfidh mé gan mo 'hair straighteners' a bheith agam? (CO)
Cad é an dóigh a bhfuil mé in ainm a bheith ag obair faoi na coinníollacha seo? (CO)

Am not a native speaker though...

Slán,

Domhnall

_________________
Ultach mé agus Gaeilg Uladh a labhraim go measardha maith!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: "How am I going to?"
PostPosted: Sat 02 Mar 2013 2:55 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun 04 Sep 2011 11:02 pm
Posts: 1581
I assume you meant to say these, right?

Goidé an dóigh a bhfuil mé in ann a bheith ag obair faoi na coingheallacha seo? (GU)

Cad é an dóigh a bhfuil mé in ann a bheith ag obair faoi na coinníollacha seo? (CO)

_________________
I'm not a native (or entirely fluent) speaker, so be sure to wait for confirmations/corrections, especially for tattoos.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: "How am I going to?"
PostPosted: Sat 02 Mar 2013 2:58 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat 01 Oct 2011 12:03 am
Posts: 231
Conas gur féidir liom...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: "How am I going to?"
PostPosted: Sat 02 Mar 2013 3:21 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat 22 Sep 2012 5:40 pm
Posts: 157
CaoimhínSF wrote:
I assume you meant to say these, right?

Goidé an dóigh a bhfuil mé in ann a bheith ag obair faoi na coingheallacha seo? (GU)

Cad é an dóigh a bhfuil mé in ann a bheith ag obair faoi na coinníollacha seo? (CO)


Hi Caoimhín,

Nope! I meant what I wrote. In ainm a bheith can have the meaning 'supposed to be', so it's appropriate for translating the original phrase. In ann means 'able to', so it wouldn't be a very faithful translation of the original English.

"How am I supposed to work under these conditions?"
Goidé an dóigh a bhfuil mé in ainm a bheith ag obair faoi na coingheallacha seo? (GU)
Cad é an dóigh a bhfuil mé in ainm a bheith ag obair faoi na coinníollacha seo? (CO)

Slán,

Domhnall

_________________
Ultach mé agus Gaeilg Uladh a labhraim go measardha maith!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: "How am I going to?"
PostPosted: Sat 02 Mar 2013 3:39 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat 18 Aug 2012 9:06 am
Posts: 21
AnBraonach wrote:
CaoimhínSF wrote:
I assume you meant to say these, right?

Goidé an dóigh a bhfuil mé in ann a bheith ag obair faoi na coingheallacha seo? (GU)

Cad é an dóigh a bhfuil mé in ann a bheith ag obair faoi na coinníollacha seo? (CO)


Hi Caoimhín,

Nope! I meant what I wrote. In ainm a bheith can have the meaning 'supposed to be', so it's appropriate for translating the original phrase. In ann means 'able to', so it wouldn't be a very faithful translation of the original English.

"How am I supposed to work under these conditions?"
Goidé an dóigh a bhfuil mé in ainm a bheith ag obair faoi na coingheallacha seo? (GU)
Cad é an dóigh a bhfuil mé in ainm a bheith ag obair faoi na coinníollacha seo? (CO)

Slán,

Domhnall


I was about to stick up for you on this one actually :P But do you not have to shove the copula in there to make it "in ainm is a bheith"? It's not a construction I come across much but I thought your had to put the copula in.

Also, is "Conas gur féidir liom..." in common usage? Is it definitely good irish? No offence to Rossaí, just checkin!

Thanks a lot to everyone for their help!


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 21 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 1414 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group