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PostPosted: Thu 07 Mar 2013 4:16 am 
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I speak to my dog in Irish. But if I only want her to come to me (not do anything specific, like come in the house, or get in her crate), I just call her name and she runs up to me. I don't actually have to tell her to "come." Just my two cents. :D

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Mar 2013 10:33 am 
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Benjamin wrote:
Goille!


Yes. Or just call his name.

It is short for "gabh i leith" "come here".
In Donegal it's said/written as "goitse".


What are you naming the dog Christy?

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Mar 2013 1:56 pm 
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Bríd Mhór wrote:
Benjamin wrote:
Goille!


Yes. Or just call his name.

It is short for "gabh i leith" "come here".
In Donegal it's said/written as "goitse".



What are you naming the dog Christy?

Bríd, as far as the animals, there is a dog named Séamus (which would be lenited in vocative case) and a cat named Oisín (which wouldn't be lenited since it begins with a consonant, I believe). The other two cats are yet to be named.

I also get the "goille" now too. Originally, I was thinking "stomach" (as if calling the dog to your body), but I now see that's "goile."


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PostPosted: Thu 07 Mar 2013 2:35 pm 
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Séamus would be "A Shéamuis" in the vocative. You're right about it being lenited, but I'm not sure if you knew that the last s becomes slender.

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Mar 2013 3:19 pm 
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Similarly - A Sheáin, when you are addressing Seán.


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PostPosted: Thu 07 Mar 2013 3:40 pm 
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The vocative is correct. And nothing wrong with using it with dogs.
But in practice people would normally just call the name -
Aindí !
Oisín !
(my two dogs)

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Mar 2013 5:37 pm 
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We recently got a lovely rescue German Shepherd Dog, and I think it would be cool to train her in Irish. Maxi (Macsaí b'fhéidir?) is so smart as it is, she can do lots of things already without any formal training. :)


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PostPosted: Thu 07 Mar 2013 5:50 pm 
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BTW, a dog who was trained in one language can always be re-trained in another, just as they can learn to respond to a different name.

Here's what we did with our dog Wiley:

http://www.bitesizeirishgaelic.com/blog ... the-block/

When I call him, I just use his name if it's not imperative that he obey. I used "goitse!" in the same sense that "come!" is used in the obedience ring: "get yourself over here right now and don't be slow about it!"

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Mar 2013 5:52 pm 
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Because I wasn't consistent my dog ended up being bilingual. She understands Sui sios as well as Sit down, and goille as well as come. Its all about tone, not a bother to them :dog:


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PostPosted: Thu 07 Mar 2013 6:32 pm 
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Somhairle Óg wrote:
Its all about tone, not a bother to them :dog:


I agree. My youngest had some issues with his speech until recently. Most adults couldn't understand him, and yet our Black Lab never had a problem understanding his commands at all. Boy's best friend.

Thanks again for all the input, everyone. :D I'm thinking I'll probably leave the animal names un-lenited since that seems to be the consensus.


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