fé choinne

kokoshneta · **Joined:** Wed 07 Sep 2011 5:05 pm **Posts:** 422

faberm wrote:

When I use "fá choinne" it is followed by a noun or noun thought. (Thug mé bróntannas fá choinne an bhreitlá.) I brought a gift for (for the purpose of) the birthday.

When I use "chun" or "le" it is followed by a verb or verbal thought. ( Chuaigh mé go dti an bhialann chun (or 'le') lón a ithe.) I went to the restaurant (for the purpose ) to eat lunch.

I don’t think this distinction is really general, unfortunately. A verbal noun can often be heard after fá choinne, too.

I do think it’s more common to have chun or le there if the object (the purpose of the ‘for’) is a verbal noun with an object, as in your second clause. Chuaigh mé ’na bialainne fá choinne mo lón a ithe sounds a bit clumsy to me, and I don’t think I’ve heard it used. Much more common to say chuaigh mé ’na bialainne chun mo lón a ithe.

Lughaidh · **Joined:** Thu 15 Sep 2011 12:06 pm **Posts:** 2436

I've often heard things like "fá choinne mo lón a dh'ithe"!
And of course you can also say "le mo lón a dh'ithe", you wouldn't use much "chun" is this case in Ulster, in my opinion (but in Munster you would; for Connachta I don't know).

kokoshneta · **Joined:** Wed 07 Sep 2011 5:05 pm **Posts:** 422

Lughaidh wrote:

I've often heard things like "fá choinne mo lón a dh'ithe"!

Really?

Well, I might have heard it, but I haven’t noticed it, then.

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And of course you can also say "le mo lón a dh'ithe", you wouldn't use much "chun" is this case in Ulster, in my opinion (but in Munster you would; for Connachta I don't know).

Chun in this use, though, I’m certain I’ve heard, at least with a generic é as the object: ’né a dhéanamh/dheánamh = lena dhé/ánamh. Could be more of a South Donegal (and perhaps Belfast) thing than a Gaoth Dobhair thing, but I’ve definitely heard native Ulster speakers say it.

Féabar · **Posted:** Tue 04 Oct 2011 11:39 pm

Yeh...I too heard "chun" with a verbal thought the whole time I was in Gleann Fhinne which is in Donegal. Maybe it's something said a little different from place to place. Níl a fhios agam cén fáth.

Bríd Mhór · **Joined:** Sun 28 Aug 2011 8:29 pm **Posts:** 2996

I'd say -
... le mo lón a ithe.

Tá mé ag goil go dtí 'n doctúir.

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