hi can you please help translate'You'll Never Walk Alone', i have come across a few versions in irish but am not convinced, any help and i would be grateful

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Is fearr Gaeilg na Gaeltaċta ná Gaeilg ar biṫ eile
Agus is í Gaeilg Ġaoṫ Doḃair is binne

(Repealed in light of discussions below.)

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Múinteoir Gaeilge - Irish Teacher
My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).

Is 'in' a dialect thing (as opposed to 'i' in the CO)?

Other possible versions then:

Ní shiúlfad i d'aonar choíche
Ní shiúlfad id aonar choíche
Ní shiúlfad it aonar choíche

I would just have 'i d'aonar' not 'in'. However, as my signature says, I am not trustworthy!

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Oops, that's just me not reading properly. I would have said:

Ní shiúlfaidh tú i d'aonar go deo.

And that's what I mistakenly thought Lughaidh had.


Just to explain to harpo, shiúlfad is an older form of shiúlfaidh mé, more common in writing than in speech.

The combination i d' can also be written as one one word id.

The d' is pronounced as a t and some people prefer to write it that way, thus you can also have it instead of id, and you could also have i t'.

But Ní shiúlfaidh tú i d'aonar go deo. would be the most usual way to write it in standard Irish nowadays.

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Múinteoir Gaeilge - Irish Teacher
My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).

If I were not sure I would have said it...
"in d'aonar" is correct, it's what people say in Donegal (and maybe elsewhere).
Standard Irish is simply an artificial dialect, so everything is dialectal anyway

Ní shiúlfad is Munster Irish.

Writing "id aonar" is Munster Irish too.

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Is fearr Gaeilg na Gaeltaċta ná Gaeilg ar biṫ eile
Agus is í Gaeilg Ġaoṫ Doḃair is binne

Note:

Ní shiúlfad choíche is Munster for ‘I will never walk’. It should be ní shiúlfair if a synthetic form is to be used.

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Not a native speaker.

Always wait for at least three people to agree on a translation, especially if it’s for something permanent.

My translations are usually GU (Ulster Irish), unless CO (Standard Orthography) is requested.

Oh, dear. I wrote as much myself, i.e., "shiúlfad is an older form of shiúlfaidh mé", and still didn't twig that it was an incorrect translation.


Nevertheless, if you are going to give a translation specific to Ulster Irish please indicate it with a (GU).

Ní shiúlfad is used in Connemara, but only in short answer to questions, not usually in full sentences. Synthetic forms also appear extensively in written works by Connacht authors such a Pádraic Ó Conaire.

Just to clarify to harpo, the usual standard (and Connemara) form would be:

Ní shiúlfaidh tú i d'aonar go deo.

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Múinteoir Gaeilge - Irish Teacher
My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).

I know, basically I wanted to comment that form and it made me forget it didn't correspond to the sentence



That's right, and even in some Donegal songs, eg.
Ní chodlóchad go lá leat
(in the song "Tar chugam in mo néaltaí").

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Is fearr Gaeilg na Gaeltaċta ná Gaeilg ar biṫ eile
Agus is í Gaeilg Ġaoṫ Doḃair is binne