Lots of them are revivals -Aiden/Aodhán, traditionally Ían, or something; Emer, traditionally Éimhir, but don't tell that to the know-alls -you might know something they don't and that wouldn't do. I mean, it should be obvious from a little knowledge of the langauge that such modern Anglo names are not traditional nor couldn't possibly be

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Not sure where you're getting that. "Aodhán" is simply a diminutive of "Aodh," which was the name of one of the sons of Lír (it's also the name from which we get "Hugh"). "Ian" is the Scottish form of the name that is "Eoin" in Irish (a form of "John").

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We weren't really talking about English spellings (with the exception of Bridget).
The older spellings with the punceannaí or later with the H which gave us the silent combinations like gh/dh were normal before the 1950s spelling reforms. Ofcourse there are even older spellings when you go back to Middle and Old Irish etc.

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It shouldn't be too hard to see what I talking about

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I mean, names get taken up by people who wouldn't know (or care) that a) the name has changed in the intervening years, b) the spelling might not reflect on its pronunciation very well

For example the 'ao' sound or the dh, so 'Aiden' is really an English culture name, not an Irish one

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"Ían" /i:an/ would be the Ulster pronunciation of Aodhán, wouldn't it?
I'd assume it's /'i:ɑ:n/ in Connacht and /e:'ɑ:n/ in Munster.

I thought Siobhán was /ʃə'vɑ:n/ in Munster.

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I actually have never met anyone who didn't pronounce the "dh" in "Aodhán" as a "d." I think the lenited "d" may have come forward as an older spelling that doesn't really represent pronunciation. In fact, I'm starting to see Irish speakers spelling it as "Aodán."

I only know one "Aodhán" from Ulster, and he pronounces his name EE-dawn.

We may need more input on this one. I can only go on what I've heard people use.

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http://www.forvo.com/word/aodh%C3%A1n/#ga



* edit: Mo léir! For some reason, this link doesn't work right when you click on it. Hopefully, one of the moderators will come along and fix it, or you can just copy paste the link.

** edit2: Okay, it's working now. Thanks, to whoever fixed it.

I'm not sure anymore.
I thought it was Aodh_dán. But that doesn't follow the spelling.

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It's likely that someone during the Gaelic revival saw 'Aodán' (with a ponc) but ignored the ponc and since most of the revivalists had chubbies for Munster Irish, they took 'ao' to be /e:/ and ignoring the fada (as it's all a bit o' craic, like), came up with 'Aiden'.

Emer is done in a similar way, except here the vowel has being shifted to conform with the vowel shifting/raising of English, so /e:/ becomes /i:/

This should be kind of obvious but once again shows just how Anglicized Irsh people are, that like a fish in water, or someone in the matrix, the very 'grammar of thought' employed precludes some things from being seen, let alone understood.

Other examples are 'Oisín' being pronounced as 'Oh-sheen' because in British English it would be, thus by default it must be in Hiberno English and therefore in Irish, or where someone believes 'Cormac' is the Irish for 'Charles' etc

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