Greetings, All - hoping for a bit of help here.
I'm designing T-shirts for a group of extended family for a trip to Ireland, and was hoping to have an Irish phrase for it. Have been toying with 'Turas Muintir' or 'Turas Teaghliegh' or even 'Turas Clann' - curious if any of these make any sense in conveying what I want to say...or if there is a more traditional, actual phrase, related to the idea of a 'family trip or journey', especially with the connotation of inclusion of extended family...much appreciated!!

:J

So I'm guessing what you're going for is "Family Trip," yes? If so, you're going to need the genitive of the second word in each of those:

Turas Muintire

Turas Teaghlaigh

Turas Clainne

Of the three of them, the first is the most inclusive.

Wait for more input. I'm a bit out of practice with the genitive.

Redwolf

Thank you, Redwolf, for your reply!
I figured there must be other forms of these words, but of course had no notion of how to conjugate them properly.

When you say Turas Muintire is the most inclusive, do you mean it has the best connotation for the notion of not just immediate but extended family (as I was hoping for)??

Hopefully others will weigh in as well, on this, but appreciate your interest and effort here -Thanks again!
:J

Yes, that's what I meant. "Muintir" (genitive singular "muintire") means "people" or "folk," and is often used to refer to "family" as in the entire family reunion crowd (in some contexts it also means "people" of a particular group, such as "muintir na háite": "local people"). "Teaghlach" (genitive "teaghlaigh") means "household," and is typically used these days to refer to what we might call the "nuclear family": Parents and offspring (in the old days in Ireland, it might also refer to grandparents...basically, anyone who lived with you). "Clann" (genitive "clainne") refers to one's children and descendants, or to the collective children of a particular family (or, in some cases, to one's siblings as a collective).

There are different usages in different parts of Ireland, but this distinction works best for your purposes, I think.

Things will change further if you want to put the family name in there somewhere. For example, "O'Malley Family Trip" would be "Turas Mhuintir Uí Mháille."

If you're not planning to put the family name in there, it might do better to put a possessive adjective in there, such as "our": "Turas ár Muintire."

Definitely wait for more input on this. What's your deadline? Can you wait a few days for people to weigh in? If there's a bit of a rush on this, I can try to rally the troupes to take a look at it a little faster.

Redwolf

Definitely wait for more input on this. What's your deadline? Can you wait a few days for people to weigh in? If there's a bit of a rush on this, I can try to rally the troupes to take a look at it a little faster.

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I hate to be of any bother, but I am kind of at my deadline with this project - this notion of an Irish quote only struck me at the 11th hour here, unfortunately. It IS just a T-shirt, after all, not a tattoo (hahaha -that would be more permanent - but we don't want to look the fools, wearing them about, either). If you do know some others who might share their opinion, sometime today, it would be nice.

I would not include a family name, I don't think as there are so many of us, from different lines, traveling together, hence my wanting to use the more inclusive, extended family term.

Thanks for any further input you can provide or seek out!
:J

True, "muintir" is more encompassing. But I like the sound of "Turas Teaghlaigh". I always like an alliteration

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I speak Connemara Irish, and my input will often reflect that.
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I'd go with this then, especially as you are at your deadline. It's sound, it sounds nice, and it's got a native speaker's stamp of approval...all good in my book!

If I were to see this on a shirt, my automatic translation would be "Family Trip." There's no ambiguity there.

I think you're set!

Redwolf