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PostPosted: Mon 02 Apr 2012 3:10 pm 
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mjamesk wrote:
Thanks for all the replies! The English spelling of our name is "Ferrell" so a different surname may be more accurate....and also I am pretty set on using the ogham translation for the tattoo. Thanks for all the help!

When saying "Ferrell", do you put the stress:

1. On the first syllable so that it sounds pretty much like "feral" FEH-rul?

2. On the second syllable so that it sounds more like fur-ELL?

3. Something different again?

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Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
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PostPosted: Mon 02 Apr 2012 3:13 pm 
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Alright thank you, any advice on the best way to transcribe it into ogham?


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PostPosted: Mon 02 Apr 2012 3:15 pm 
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It sounds like number one, much like the word "feral"


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PostPosted: Mon 02 Apr 2012 3:33 pm 
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Here's three versions:

᚛ᚑ ᚃᚕᚏᚌᚆᚐᚂ᚜ (O FEARGHAIL) (i.e., the spelling as you asked for it)
᚛ᚑ ᚃᚕᚏᚗᚂ᚜ (O FEARUIL) (i.e., a phonetic of the Irish pronunciation)
᚛ᚃᚓᚏᚒᚂ᚜ (FERUL) (i.e., a phonetic version of the English pronunciation)

There should be three lines with the marks > and < at either end. If you see only blank spaces or boxes or if there are any gaps between the marks, then the ogham text is garbled.

If it is garbled, let me know and I'll make a snapshot for you.

(Lughaigh might also be able to back-form an Old irish version and I could transcribe that to ogham if he can't type ogham on his computer.)

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Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
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PostPosted: Mon 02 Apr 2012 5:27 pm 
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Thank you!.....but It appears garbled, all I see are boxes with question marks.


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PostPosted: Mon 02 Apr 2012 5:38 pm 
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One moment please! :bolt:

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Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
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PostPosted: Mon 02 Apr 2012 5:48 pm 
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Here you are:

Image

Please check them against the chart on this page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogham

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Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).


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PostPosted: Mon 02 Apr 2012 9:02 pm 
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Sorry just to muddy things more, Irish identity gives Ó Fearail for Ferrall


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PostPosted: Mon 02 Apr 2012 9:26 pm 
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Fearail is a simplified spelling of Fearghail, I think.

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Apr 2012 2:22 am 
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Lughaidh wrote:
Fearail is a simplified spelling of Fearghail, I think.

I think so, too. :yes:

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Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).


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