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PostPosted: Mon 09 Apr 2012 10:09 pm 
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Looking for a translation on one of the following 4 using séimhiú for a tattoo -

1. Protector
2. Steadfast Protector
3. Firm Protector
4. Determined Protector

Those are in order of most important to least important.

I've already had one person who sent me a translation from elsewhere, but heard this forum has a bit more activity -

1. Protector - Cosantóir
2. Steadfast Protector - Cosantóir Teann
3. Firm Protector - Cosantóir Daingean
4. Determined Protector - Cosantóir Diongbháilte

Thanks in advance! :)


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PostPosted: Mon 09 Apr 2012 11:07 pm 
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mahoneyl80 wrote:
Looking for a translation on one of the following 4 using séimhiú for a tattoo -

1. Protector
2. Steadfast Protector
3. Firm Protector
4. Determined Protector

Those are in order of most important to least important.

I've already had one person who sent me a translation from elsewhere, but heard this forum has a bit more activity -

1. Protector - Cosantóir
2. Steadfast Protector - Cosantóir Teann
3. Firm Protector - Cosantóir Daingean
4. Determined Protector - Cosantóir Diongbháilte

Thanks in advance! :)


Some adjectives have multiple meanings, depending on the context, and there can be several adjectives in Irish which might fit the meaning of an English adjective. What you have there all works just fine. As an example of the variety/flexibility of terms, diongbháilte, from your last item, could also be the adjective used in your second item, and a few others might be interchangeable as well, at least in this context.

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PostPosted: Tue 10 Apr 2012 4:35 am 
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Technically, even in English steadfast, firm, and determined could and can be interpreted as having the same meaning. I won't lie, appearance will also play a determining factor in it as it will be a somewhat large tattoo across my chest. I do however want it to be correct as far as translation over appearance. Will wait for more confirmations, thanks!


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Bumped up. Thanks.


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PostPosted: Thu 12 Apr 2012 12:05 am 
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I agree with Caoimhín that any of what you have there should work fine.

What did you mean by "using séimhiú for a tattoo"?

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PostPosted: Thu 12 Apr 2012 4:26 am 
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The dots, I've gotten translations in the past with and/or without the dots and from what I do know seimhiu dots change the format/translation some. Visually, I like the dots as far as a tattoo goes.

Waiting on a couple other confirmations, also what exactly are the direct translations to English for Teann, Daingean, and Diongbhailte? The words will/are being used as adjectives.

Thanks again!


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mahoneyl80 wrote:
The dots, I've gotten translations in the past with and/or without the dots and from what I do know seimhiu dots change the format/translation some. Visually, I like the dots as far as a tattoo goes.

Waiting on a couple other confirmations, also what exactly are the direct translations to English for Teann, Daingean, and Diongbhailte? The words will/are being used as adjectives.

Thanks again!


Séimhiú actually refers to the sound change represented by the dots...not the dots themselves. In modern writing, the "h" after the consonant serves the same function, but the dots look nicer, I think, with the older script.

You only have one in that lot that would require one. Diongbháilte would change to "diongbáilte," with a dot over the "b."

Teann: solid, bold, assured, confident

Daingean: firm, adamant, determined

Diongbháilte: steadfast, staunch, resolute

Don't forget the accent over the "á" in "diongbháilte."

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Awesome! Thank you! :toast:


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In old font, with a ponc:

Cosantóir Diongḃáilte

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Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).


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