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 Post subject: Re: Dathanna as Gaeilge?
PostPosted: Tue 10 Apr 2012 8:18 pm 
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I think in "traditional" Irish, "orange" was "buí" ie. perceived as a kind of yellow. For instance, the Orangemen are called "na fir bhuí", the yellow men.

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 Post subject: Re: Dathanna as Gaeilge?
PostPosted: Tue 10 Apr 2012 8:25 pm 
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For instance, the Orangemen are called "na fir bhuí", the yellow men.


They are called many other things as well... :angry:


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 Post subject: Re: Dathanna as Gaeilge?
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Flannbhuí is what I was taught for the colour orange, Oraiste was for the fruit. Green was uaine and glás for green vegetables, trees, etc


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I'm pretty sure a bay horse is "donnrua." "Buírua" sounds more like what I would think of as a buckskin or yellow dun.

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 Post subject: Re: Dathanna as Gaeilge?
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Glas (no fada) is also grey when talking about animals.
And eyes too AFAIK.

Ofcourse "glas" has other non-colour meanings too like "lock".

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 Post subject: Re: Dathanna as Gaeilge?
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A Bhríd, around Teach Mór and Lochán Beag in the 40's and 50's the orange colour was always referred to as flannbhuí. I realise that all languages change over time but I don't recall oranges being plentiful in the area (it was wartime).


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 Post subject: Re: Dathanna as Gaeilge?
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Brian O'Cathain wrote:
A Bhríd, around Teach Mór and Lochán Beag in the 40's and 50's the orange colour was always referred to as flannbhuí. I realise that all languages change over time but I don't recall oranges being plentiful in the area (it was wartime).


Yes. Oráiste is an introduced words. Flannbhuí was used more often before that, and still used for the national flag. But today most people use "oráiste" as the colour too.

Oranges would never have been common in poor rural areas, you might be lucky if you got an orange for Christmas. Often people didn't have jam except for special days too. Unless they made their own, but then they'd have to buy loads of sugar for that. And people lived on what they could plant themselves for the most part. Often bartering eggs etc to buy flour and sugar.
I'm from An Cheathrú Rua. :D

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Lughaidh wrote:
I think in "traditional" Irish, "orange" was "buí" ie. perceived as a kind of yellow. For instance, the Orangemen are called "na fir bhuí", the yellow men.


A Lughaidh
Seans go mbainfidh tú taitneamh as an bpíosa seo ón Duibhíneach (Dia go deo leis). GML má tá sé feicthe agat cheana:

http://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/~oduibhin/crui ... raiste.htm


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 Post subject: Re: Dathanna as Gaeilge?
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Bríd Mhór wrote:
Oranges would never have been common in poor rural areas, you might be lucky if you got an orange for Christmas.

My Dad actually did get an orange for Christmas one year in the late 1950s. Also I think coffee was a special thing
that a few people in the town got around Christmas as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Dathanna as Gaeilge?
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Doesn't buí have other connotations in Irish? I seem to remember it did somewhere. I didn't go through the whole list on Focal but does bronze - cré-umha count as a colour?


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