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PostPosted: Wed 11 Apr 2012 9:59 pm 
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Phonetics are difficult because Irish phonetics are different to English:

i gcéin: The i part is pronounced like i in "in" - drop the "n"

Probably the closest English word to gcéin would be the word "gain"- just a bit harder on the g

ón gcian:

ón is pronounced like the name Owen/ Eoin/ Eoghan

gcian- gee'n

Altogether: i gcéin ón gcian: i(n) Gain eoin gee'n- this is a rough guide, also the way I am pronoucing these might be different to the way you would as I'm Irish.

Redwolf your after getting in ahead of me again :darklaugh:

Wait for some more input.

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PostPosted: Wed 11 Apr 2012 10:02 pm 
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An Cionnfhaolach wrote:
Phonetics are difficult because Irish phonetics are different to English:

i gcéin: The i part is pronounced like i in "in" - drop the "n"

Probably the closest English word to gcéin would be the word "gain"- just a bit harder on the g

ón gcian:

ón is pronounced like the name Owen/ Eoin/ Eoghan

gcian- gee'n

Altogether: i gcéin ón gcian: i(n) Gain eoin gee'n- this is a rough guide, also the way I am pronoucing these might be different to the way you would as I'm Irish.

Redwolf your after getting in ahead of me again :darklaugh:

Wait for some more input.


Flying fingers!

Folks in North America tend to pronounce "Owen/Eoin" with two distinct syllables...they sound a bit different than they do in Ireland. That's why I wrote "ohn." "Own" might be even easier.

Redwolf


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Flying fingers!

Folks in North America tend to pronounce "Owen/Eoin" with two distinct syllables...they sound a bit different than they do in Ireland. That's why I wrote "ohn." "Own" might be even easier.

Redwolf[/quote]

Thats what I was afraid of; in that case own would be much better ;) . Thats the problem with phonetics :) .

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PostPosted: Wed 11 Apr 2012 10:34 pm 
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hey redwolf

thank you! i love the sound of that! very nice.....looks like i have a winner

i am curious what I bhFad ó Bhuarthaí sounds like as well....is bh like a "v" sound?

thanks again!


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PostPosted: Wed 11 Apr 2012 10:43 pm 
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chrischapmanphoto wrote:
hey redwolf

thank you! i love the sound of that! very nice.....looks like i have a winner

i am curious what I bhFad ó Bhuarthaí sounds like as well....is bh like a "v" sound?

thanks again!


It depends on the dialect: in "i bhfad" the bh is indeed pronounced like "v". In Connacht and Ulster its not pronounced like v at all at all, more like a w or silent.

Ó- Ohh

Bhuarthaí: vor-a-hee (Munster) wor-a-hee (Connacht and Ulster I think)

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PostPosted: Wed 11 Apr 2012 11:06 pm 
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wow..

well both suggestions so far sound beautiful to my ears....would love some concensus on which one you all think is the best choice!

I gcéin ón gcian or I bhFad ó Bhuarthaí

thanks again everyone!!

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I would use Brendan's version in conversation. I'm not conversant with the others.


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chrischapmanphoto wrote:
wow..

well both suggestions so far sound beautiful to my ears....would love some concensus on which one you all think is the best choice!

I gcéin ón gcian or I bhFad ó Bhuarthaí

thanks again everyone!!

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I'd say the second as "ih wad oh WUR-hee."

I like the first because the alliteration and assonance appeals to my sense of the poetic.

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PostPosted: Wed 11 Apr 2012 11:19 pm 
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chrischapmanphoto wrote:
wow..

well both suggestions so far sound beautiful to my ears....would love some concensus on which one you all think is the best choice!

I gcéin ón gcian or I bhFad ó Bhuarthaí

thanks again everyone!!

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I also prefer the first one.

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i bhfad ó bhuarthaí
ih WAAD oh WOOR-hee (where the oo in woor is like the oo in moot, or like a Scottish person would say "moor")
/i wa:d o: wu:rhi:/

Also both alliterative and assonant. ;)

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