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 Post subject: SG: Fionnghuala
PostPosted: Thu 17 May 2012 2:03 pm 
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Please help! I want to sing Fionnghuala, but I can't seem to find a pronunciation anywhere. The actual spellings make no sence to my american brain. Can someone please give me a phonetic spelling for the words?

Ars' an gobha fuiricheamaid
Ars' an gobha falbheamaid
Ars' an gobha ris an ogha
Na sheasamh aig doras an t-sabhail
Gu rachadh e a shuirghe

Sèist: (after each verse)
'Si eilean nam bothan nam bothan
Eilean nam bothan nam bothan
Eilean nam bothan nam bothan
Am bothan a bh' aig Fionnghuala
'Si eilean nam bothan nam bothan
Eilean nam bothan nam bothan
Eilean nam bothan nam bothan
Am bothan a bh' aig Fionnghuala

Bheirinn fead air fulmairean
Bheirinn fead air falmairean
Liuthannan beaga na mara
Bheireamaid greis air an tarrainn
Na maireadh na duirgh dhuinn

Cha d'thuirt an dadan a' seo
Cha d'thuirt an dadan a' seo
Cha d'thuirt an dadan a' seo
Bheireamaid greis air an tarrainn
Na maireadh na duirgh dhuinn

I know some people are opposed to someone singing a song if they don't know the meaning. The truth is, I do. Even if I can't speak scottish-gaelic, I can still use the internet. I can find the translation perfectly fine, thank you very much. I appreciate your help!


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 Post subject: Re: Fionnghuala
PostPosted: Thu 17 May 2012 3:05 pm 
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Ars' an gobha fuiricheamaid = ars ung o-uh foo-thih-hyuh-metch
Ars' an gobha falbheamaid = ars ung o-uh fah-lah-vuh-metch
Ars' an gobha ris an ogha = ars ung o-uh thish uh noh
Na sheasamh aig doras an t-sabhail = na heh-soo eck doh-russ an hah-vahl
Gu rachadh e a shuirghe = kuh rah-khuGH ah uh hoo-thih-yeh

Sèist: (after each verse)
'Si eilean nam bothan nam bothan = shee eh-lahn nuh mo-uhn nuh mo-uhn
Eilean nam bothan nam bothan = eh-lahn nuh mo-uhn nuh mo-uhn
Eilean nam bothan nam bothan = eh-lahn nuh mo-uhn nuh mo-uhn
Am bothan a bh' aig Fionnghuala = uh mo-uhn uh veck finn-oo-uh-luh
'Si eilean nam bothan nam bothan = shee eh-lahn nuh mo-uhn nuh mo-uhn
Eilean nam bothan nam bothan = eh-lahn nuh mo-uhn nuh mo-uhn
Eilean nam bothan nam bothan = eh-lahn nuh mo-uhn nuh mo-uhn
Am bothan a bh' aig Fionnghuala = uh mo-uhn uh veck finn-oo-uh-luh

Bheirinn fead air fulmairean = veh-thinn fett eth foo-loo-meh-thuhn
Bheirinn fead air falmairean = veh-thinn fett eth fah-lah-meh-thuhn
Liuthannan beaga na mara = lyoo-uhn-uhn beck-uh nuh mah-ruh
Bheireamaid greis air an tarrainn = veh-thuh-metch gthesh eth uhn hah-rinn
Na maireadh na duirgh dhuinn = nah mah-thuGH nuh doo-thiyy GHuh-inn

Cha d'thuirt an dadan a' seo = kha toort uh nah-tuhn uh shoh
Cha d'thuirt an dadan a' seo = kha toort uh nah-tuhn uh shoh
Cha d'thuirt an dadan a' seo = kha toort uh nah-tuhn uh shoh
Bheireamaid greis air an tarrainn = veh-thuh-metch gthesh eth uhn hah-rinn
Na maireadh na duirgh dhuinn = nah mah-thuGH nuh doo-thiyy GHuh-inn

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 Post subject: Re: SG: Fionnghuala
PostPosted: Thu 17 May 2012 3:51 pm 
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Hi doctor 12, and welcome to the forum!

I've edited your title to indicate that you're asking about Scottish Gaelic. Normally I'd move it to our Scottish Gaelic forum, but since you've already got an answer here, I think it's best to leave it.

If you have further questions about Scottish Gaelic, however, you might enjoy our forum dedicated to that language:

viewforum.php?f=29

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 Post subject: Re: SG: Fionnghuala
PostPosted: Thu 17 May 2012 5:08 pm 
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Thank you so much! Once again, the internet pulls through!


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 Post subject: Re: SG: Fionnghuala
PostPosted: Thu 17 May 2012 7:47 pm 
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I've slowed it down for you so you can hear the individual sounds better -

https://www.box.com/s/bcc60b86944ec7abf722

(That's the Bothy Band version)

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 Post subject: Re: SG: Fionnghuala
PostPosted: Thu 17 May 2012 10:58 pm 
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I think doctor12 may be working off one of the newer ones but here are the lyrics to the Bothy Band "original", which they said they learned directly from someone in the Outer Hebrides:

http://www.celticlyricscorner.net/bothy ... ghuala.htm

And a clip for those who may have missed it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy26KCV6mp8

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 Post subject: Re: SG: Fionnghuala
PostPosted: Fri 18 May 2012 2:07 am 
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I'd suggest one changed line (which is repeated), a Lughaidh:

Cha d'thuirt an dadan a' seo = kha doorsht uh nah-duhn uh shoh

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 Post subject: Re: SG: Fionnghuala
PostPosted: Fri 18 May 2012 3:23 am 
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My transcription is based on the Lewis pronunciation, as I know it.
I think "thuirt" isn't "hoorsht" but "hoort" with a retroflex t (in Lewis, at least). And d's are pronounced like unaspirated t's.
If the singers of Bothy Band don't pronounce like that (especially for the d's), it might be because they are influenced by the Irish pronunciation...

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 Post subject: Re: SG: Fionnghuala
PostPosted: Fri 18 May 2012 4:53 am 
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As someone who has heard the song, but who doesn't have any Scottish Gaelic at all, a translation would also be deeply appreciated.

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 Post subject: Re: SG: Fionnghuala
PostPosted: Fri 18 May 2012 10:57 am 
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Breandán has given it there - it's on the Celtic Lyrics Corner site


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