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 Post subject: Pronunciation
PostPosted: Thu 15 Sep 2011 11:26 pm 
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I was wondering how I would pronounce this sentence/phrase:

"Buail an t-iarann te" as well as "Tapaigh an deis"

Any help at all would be very much appreciated. Thank you for your time.


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 Post subject: Re: Pronunciation
PostPosted: Fri 16 Sep 2011 10:15 pm 
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Roughly :

Bwee-ehl uh tchee-uh-rann tcheh
Tapween jesh.

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 Post subject: Re: Pronunciation
PostPosted: Fri 16 Sep 2011 10:39 pm 
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Lughaidh wrote:
Roughly :

Bwee-ehl uh tchee-uh-rann tcheh
Tapween jesh.

:)

What dialect is that?


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 Post subject: Re: Pronunciation
PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2011 11:38 am 
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Gumbi wrote:
What dialect is that?

Read his signature. ;)


Conamara-style:

Buail an t-iarann te
BOO-lin CHEE-rhun CHEH
/bu:əl´əN´ t´i:ərəN´t´e/

Tapaigh an deis
TUP-un JESH
/tapəN´d´es´/

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 Post subject: Re: Pronunciation
PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2011 11:45 am 
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Do they pronounce slender t and d like ch and j in Connemara? I thought it was mainly an Ulster (+Aran) thing...

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 Post subject: Re: Pronunciation
PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2011 12:00 pm 
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They do in Cois Fhairrge. But Benjamin says it varies from place to place.

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 Post subject: Re: Pronunciation
PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2011 1:12 pm 
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I don't remember having heard ch/j sounds in the recordings of Learning Irish, but maybe it depends on who is speaking...

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 Post subject: Re: Pronunciation
PostPosted: Sun 18 Sep 2011 12:43 pm 
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Lughaidh wrote:
Bwee-ehl uh tchee-uh-rann tcheh
Tapween jesh.

‘Bwee-ehl’? I’d pronounce it just ‘bwel’, with a short vowel … is ‘bwee-ehl’ a common variant, or..?

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 Post subject: Re: Pronunciation
PostPosted: Sun 18 Sep 2011 12:53 pm 
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It's how people pronounce in the western part of Gaoth Dobhair and in some other places in Ulster (Teileann, I think) : ua is "ee-uh" when preceded by b, f, p and their lenified and eclipsed forms.

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 Post subject: Re: Pronunciation
PostPosted: Sun 18 Sep 2011 1:13 pm 
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Lughaidh wrote:
It's how people pronounce in the western part of Gaoth Dobhair and in some other places in Ulster (Teileann, I think) : ua is "ee-uh" when preceded by b, f, p and their lenified and eclipsed forms.

Funny, I never noticed that … in most words, I’ve mostly heard it as ‘weh’ (buail ‘bwehl’) or ‘oo-eh’ (bua(idh) ‘boo-eh’ or ‘boo-ey’), and occasionally ‘aw’ (buachaill ‘bwawchəl’), but never ‘ee-uh’.

So would buail and baoil (baoghail) be homophones for you, then?

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